Rhode Island Charter Boat limit 1 or 2 fish

[JohnR]

As many of you know, Rhode Island DEM is considering whether to allow RI Charter boats to have 1 fish or 2 fish each for their clients.

I want to create a poll to see what the members here think. The options are:

1 I am a Rhode Island resident and I propose 1 fish per client on RI Charter Boats
2 I am a Rhode Island resident and I propose 2 fish per client on RI Charter Boats
3 I am not a Rhode Island resident and I propose 1 fish per client on RI Charter Boats
4 I am not a Rhode Island resident and I propose 2 fish per client on RI Charter Boats

[thefishingfreak]

Haha, why not just say Mike, Mike, Ronnie & Steve take a step to the left

[tlapinski]

Is this just for informational purposes or is this going to be provided to RISAA, RI DEM, etc?

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

Haha, why not just say Mike, Mike, Ronnie & Steve take a step to the left

Because RI residents have most bearing on RI management folks. When I was going to A6 meetings in Mass I announced that I was from RI.

Originally Posted by tlapinski

Is this just for informational purposes or is this going to be provided to RISAA, RI DEM, etc?

I am considering sending to RI DEM. They are accepting correspondence until Feb 26th

[Linesider82]

As a state with angling reciprocity what's the difference resodent or non?
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

Haha, why not just say Mike, Mike, Ronnie & Steve take a step to the left

Lmao !
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Linesider82

As a state with angling reciprocity what's the difference resodent or non?
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The same as if I sent a letter to the CT DEM people "As a concerned Rho Dyslundah"...

[MakoMike]

Why are the results hidden?

[thefishingfreak]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

Why are the results hidden?

Because what if the results aren't as everyone thought! :mushroomcloud:
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[JohnR]

Results will be displayed at end of poll in 5 days - one vote per user. Far from scientific but reduces likelihood of someone leaning on a particular button

[Sundowner]

So correct me if I am wrong..though MA&CT may vote option 1, if RI votes option 2, MA & CT vessels can take their non licensed charters to RI waters and take 2 fish?

[Sundowner]

and not for nothin', but who that votes here is from RI?

-sorry, re-read non resident option. Apologies.

[thefishingfreak]

The charter boats have to buy a permit to licence everyone on board, so stop saying they are "non - licenced".
the customers might not all have individual saltwater licences, but they are all indeed licenced.
where you land, dock or trailer depends your limits
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[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

The charter boats have to buy a permit to licence everyone on board, so stop saying they are "non - licenced".
the customers might not all have individual saltwater licences, but they are all indeed licenced.
where you land, dock or trailer depends your limits
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Not to mention besides the "vessel for hire" salt water fishing lic (Ma.) And that cost on 6x the recipient fee say a charter captain decides to loose his mind and join in on the nonsense that goes on at the canal or any other surf destination we also need a recent salt water lic.
Then say I accept an invite on a rec owners boat for the day, need a rec license also.
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[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by Sundowner

So correct me if I am wrong..though MA&CT may vote option 1, if RI votes option 2, MA & CT vessels can take their non licensed charters to RI waters and take 2 fish?

Only if they have a charter/party license in RI.

[DZ]

Originally Posted by Sundowner

So correct me if I am wrong..though MA&CT may vote option 1, if RI votes option 2, MA & CT vessels can take their non licensed charters to RI waters and take 2 fish?

I was told that because of reciprocity they could take 2 but would have to land them in RI (example RI boat ramp/boat slip). Then it becomes a possession limit in the state they are going to. But the odds of getting caught with 2 fish in a 1 fish state would be miniscule.

[Fishpart]

Bump

[iamskippy]

Originally Posted by DZ

I was told that because of reciprocity they could take 2 but would have to land them in RI (example RI boat ramp/boat slip). Then it becomes a possession limit in the state they are going to. But the odds of getting caught with 2 fish in a 1 fish state would be miniscule.

I disagree DZ, all EP would have to do is set up by the 3rd can and patrol BI, that is the area that really needs to be protected. We pay for.licensing now and i would expect a larger presence with more pressure and published fines. I also think stiffer penalties needs to be enforced, for example when your boat and gear is taken its auctioned off not returned after you pay the fines....

EP needs a larger presence in this state Lord knows i have seen way to many this winter on the ocean front...

Off-topic question, down by Monahan there is a boat.parking only, who do you call when surfers are parked there?
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by iamskippy

I disagree DZ, all EP would have to do is set up by the 3rd can and patrol BI, that is the area that really needs to be protected. We pay for.licensing now and i would expect a larger presence with more pressure and published fines. I also think stiffer penalties needs to be enforced, for example when your boat and gear is taken its auctioned off not returned after you pay the fines....

EP needs a larger presence in this state Lord knows i have seen way to many this winter on the ocean front...

Off-topic question, down by Monahan there is a boat.parking only, who do you call when surfers are parked there?
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there is only one parking spot for a boat trailer at monahans
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[DZ]

Originally Posted by iamskippy

I disagree DZ, all EP would have to do is set up by the 3rd can and patrol BI, that is the area that really needs to be protected. We pay for.licensing now and i would expect a larger presence with more pressure and published fines. I also think stiffer penalties needs to be enforced, for example when your boat and gear is taken its auctioned off not returned after you pay the fines....

EP needs a larger presence in this state Lord knows i have seen way to many this winter on the ocean front...

Off-topic question, down by Monahan there is a boat.parking only, who do you call when surfers are parked there?
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When the 2 fish bag for the for hire industry was discussed at the RISAA BOD hearing they went over this. If RI for hires get a two fish bag for clients - then any out of state for hire boats can legally keep two fish per client WHILE in RI waters because we have license reciprocity with those other states. We all agree more inforcement is needed but DEM funding is a very low priority. Although a separate issue my suggestion is for RI to drop its reciprocity agreement with other states and charge for a non-resident license to fund more enforcement. RI waters are a commodity - everyone wants to fish here and does - RI should take advantage of its resource. Reciprocity sounded good at first but is a bad deal for RI.

[iamskippy]

Originally Posted by DZ

When the 2 fish bag for the for hire industry was discussed at the RISAA BOD hearing they went over this. If RI for hires get a two fish bag for clients - then any out of state for hire boats can legally keep two fish per client WHILE in RI waters because we have license reciprocity with those other states. We all agree more inforcement is needed but DEM funding is a very low priority. Although a separate issue my suggestion is for RI to drop its reciprocity agreement with other states and charge for a non-resident license to fund more enforcement. RI waters are a commodity - everyone wants to fish here and does - RI should take advantage of its resource. Reciprocity sounded good at first but is a bad deal for RI.

So again 1 fish bag Limit for charters as well solves the problem. One of the best statements that was made was "your selling the experience not the meat ".

If DEM is underfunded get someone else to run it, just like the Clowns that think its ok to make special rules.

If the RI DEM needs more money, do as i said take the gear and trucks and auction it off problem solved.

These issues are beyond the bag limits but at least its a start. Honestly if things dont change heads At the top should roll.
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[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by DZ

When the 2 fish bag for the for hire industry was discussed at the RISAA BOD hearing they went over this. If RI for hires get a two fish bag for clients - then any out of state for hire boats can legally keep two fish per client WHILE in RI waters because we have license reciprocity with those other states. We all agree more inforcement is needed but DEM funding is a very low priority. Although a separate issue my suggestion is for RI to drop its reciprocity agreement with other states and charge for a non-resident license to fund more enforcement. RI waters are a commodity - everyone wants to fish here and does - RI should take advantage of its resource. Reciprocity sounded good at first but is a bad deal for RI.

I don't believe that it true for charter/party licenses, though it is true for the recreational fishing licenses. If you are operating a charter/party boat in RI waters you need a RI charter/party license.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

I don't believe that it true for charter/party licenses, though it is true for the recreational fishing licenses. If you are operating a charter/party boat in RI waters you need a RI charter/party license.

What about the NY/CT/MA boats bassing at SW or blackfishing in RI wtaers in the fall?

[DZ]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

I don't believe that it true for charter/party licenses, though it is true for the recreational fishing licenses. If you are operating a charter/party boat in RI waters you need a RI charter/party license.

I hope you're correct Mike. I'll have to pose the question to DEM.

[The Dad Fisherman]

I thought when the Saltwater fishing license was instituted that a portion of that money was to go to the DEM to help fund them. Might just be a MA thing but I would have thought RI would use the funds for something similar.

[thefishingfreak]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I thought when the Saltwater fishing license was instituted that a portion of that money was to go to the DEM to help fund them. Might just be a MA thing but I would have thought RI would use the funds for something similar.

the keyword here is "portion"

I voted but you can only vote on the pc. Mobile platforms no worky I want a recount! where's Al Gore

[thefishingfreak]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

I don't believe that it true for charter/party licenses, though it is true for the recreational fishing licenses. If you are operating a charter/party boat in RI waters you need a RI charter/party license.

this would never work in a state like NewHampshire with only 13 miles of coastline you would need Maine and Mass licenses also?

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

this would never work in a state like NewHampshire with only 13 miles of coastline you would need Maine and Mass licenses also?

Boats from NH would also have to have MA or ME licenses, Just like the guys from Montauk that fish around BI have to get RI licenses.

[joebaggs99]

One fish would be great. How ever for charters, I wouldn't mind 2 fish per paid angler. Leaving Captains and Mate out.

[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

Haha, why not just say Mike, Mike, Ronnie & Steve take a step to the left

Thanks for starting my morning off with a good laugh Mike.
Almost spit my coffee on laptop.
Funny chit !