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			12-23-2003, 11:57 AM
			
			
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				Saltwater Jock Scott
			 
			 
			
		
		
		I have always been fascinated by the old traditional full dress salmon flies. Back in the fall of 2001, I tied several interpretations of them converting the patterns to large saltwater flies. The Jock Scott has become one of my favorite night time flies. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-23-2003, 06:33 PM
			
			
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		I am not familiar with Steelie flies, but I do like that one.  Many similarities to the current flat wing Ken Abraemes flies.  We all know he was not the first to tie those, but is the most recent/current person to repopularize them.  What have you caught on the pattern in the picture?  I would like to have the directions to see if I could manage one.  Thanks, Swimmer. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-24-2003, 10:16 AM
			
			
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		STEELHEAD, thats  DI NO MITE !  
how about a real oldie I converted to salt 
a SALTWATER WOLF. 
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			12-24-2003, 12:00 PM
			
			
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				Jock Scott Dressing
			 
			 
			
		
		
		Swimmer, Here's the dressing for the Jock Scott. Ken ABrames Flatwings were the inspiratoin for the conversion. in his books, Joseph Bates talks quite a bit about the older salmon/landlocked salmon flatwings tied during the time when Carrie Stevens tied. As I recall, they were tied at the head of a long shanked hook and used for trolling.  
 
Jock Scott Flatwing Conversion (fly is about 8” long eye of hook to end of flash) 
 
Hook: 3/0 Eagleclaw #253 
Thread: Black  
Platform: Yellow Bucktail 
Support: Yellow hackle curve side up to support tail 
Tail (in order of assembly): 
Red saddle hackle slightly longer than support hackle 
Cantaloupe saddle hackle (all the following neck hackle tied about 5 ½” – 6” long) 
Black saddle hackle/gold flash (2 strands typical) 
Yellow saddle hackle 
Yellow saddle hackle/black flash 
Yellow saddle hackle/ red flash 
Black saddle hackle 
Brown Grizzly saddle hackle/copper flash 
Yellow saddle hackle/blue flash 
Red saddle hackle/gold flash 
Blue saddlehackle/blue flash 
Body: Bill’s body Braid, Light Blue 
Collar:  Black bucktail 2/3 around tied fairly full 
Natural Guinea Fowl folded and wrapped several turns, pulled down and tied off as throat assembly, try to tie off so that this will be a background for the Jungle Cock eye 
Topping (in order of assembly):Peacock herl (6-7 strands) tied to end at end of neck hackle in tail assembly 
Count 30 – 35 Natural Brown Bucktail from the top of a natural white bucktail 
Brown Grizzly saddle hackle (41/2” –5” long) 
Golden Pheasant crest 
Cheek/Eye: Tuft of Turquoise saddle hackle tied in above Jungle Cock eye 
 
NOTE: Red, Yellow and Blue are Primary colors (bright) 
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-24-2003, 12:02 PM
			
			
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		 Saltydog. Very nice fly! It looks like it would be a great wounded bunker fly. Can you post the pattern? I especially like the way the white collar veils the red tail. Are there two colors on the body? 
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-24-2003, 08:13 PM
			
			
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		STEELHEAD thanks for posting the patten. I will be doing some of thoes myself. thats a beauty. 
patten  saltwater wolf  
your favorite hook 
tail red deerhair 3" 
body dark blue estas 
red chenille collar ( to help spread deerhair) 
white deer hair all around 
tie off an your good to go. 
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			12-26-2003, 10:18 AM
			
			
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		 Steelhead,that be a keeper nice tie. 
		
		
		
		
		
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