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Old 01-22-2009, 02:38 PM   #1
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Unenjoyment ...

Who's loafing ... raise your hand .. ME !!!!.. Try calling unenjoyment during this depression .. Good Luck getting through .. My company went from 300 - 30 when I left .. I'm not related or go to Xmas partys ,,or company golf outings so I think I did pretty good hanging in there .. Somebodys gotta work .. This is not a Woa is me thread .. just reality .. I'll bounce back . Unenjoyment money is just a slow death .
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Old 01-22-2009, 02:41 PM   #2
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feb 4th will mark 4 months. Called the BA again yesterday and he said "looks like it's going to be a long one".......
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Old 01-22-2009, 03:36 PM   #3
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Time to fish....side jobs.

Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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Old 01-22-2009, 04:16 PM   #4
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Looks like it may be the rebirth of the "handyman".
Since most of the companies you would normally call have let their staff go, they can't possibly "send someone right out".

There's something to be said for working "under the table" (no pun intended).

Hopefully things will pick up, but it's not looking that way at this time.
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Old 01-22-2009, 04:43 PM   #5
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Just heard

that Bose is laying off 1000 people this year.....
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Old 01-22-2009, 05:42 PM   #6
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that Bose is laying off 1000 people this year.....
Geez, I would guess that sales of $1,000 boom-boxes and iPod docks are probably dropping thru the basement right about now...

"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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Old 01-22-2009, 07:07 PM   #7
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Didn't you see the news today? Apple beat earnings on sales on macs and iPods.

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Old 01-22-2009, 06:13 PM   #8
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Not laid off yet, but my company laid off 22 guys out of 50

We have work I start a new job Tuesday and Just finished
one that's been going for 10 months Final inspection tomorrow
and close out meeting Monday

Chin up guys I hope the best for everyone

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Old 01-22-2009, 06:35 PM   #9
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Plenty of jobs in healthcare. For you handy types, search for maintenence-type jobs in hospitals/nursing homes. Decent pay with all the bennies.....

Not handy? Nursing school will pay for itself quickly.

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Old 01-22-2009, 06:47 PM   #10
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Tough to read this knowing some of you guys i hope it turns around fast for all of you.They cut hours at my place but just happy to be working i just hope this thing turns around sooner than later.

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Old 01-23-2009, 01:34 PM   #11
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Good luck finding one you can get into.

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Old 01-22-2009, 07:35 PM   #12
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This kind of crap pisses me off. Basically saying no jobs for blue collar white guys.............


The Stimulus: How to Create Jobs Without Them All Going to Skilled Professionals and White Male Construction Workers

The stimulus plan will create jobs repairing and upgrading the nation's roads, bridges, ports, levees, water and sewage system, public-transit systems, electricity grid, and schools. And it will kick-start alternative, non-fossil based sources of energy (wind, solar, geothermal, and so on); new health-care information systems; and universal broadband Internet access.

It's a two-fer: lots of new jobs, and investments in the nation's future productivity.

But if there aren't enough skilled professionals to do the jobs involving new technologies, the stimulus will just increase the wages of the professionals who already have the right skills rather than generate many new jobs in these fields. And if construction jobs go mainly to white males who already dominate the construction trades, many people who need jobs the most -- women, minorities, and the poor and long-term unemployed -- will be shut out.

What to do? There's no easy solution to either dilemma. But there's no reason to think about "green jobs" as simply high-tech. Many low-income and low-skilled workers -- women as well as men -- could be put directly to work providing homes and businesses with more efficient and renewable heating, lighting, cooling, and refrigeration systems; installing solar panels and efficient photovoltaic systems; rehabilitating and renovating old properties, and improving recycling systems. "Green Jobs Corps" teams could be trained to evaluate and advise homeowners and businesses on these and other means of conserving energy.

People can be trained relatively quickly for these sorts of jobs, as well as many infrastructure j0bs generated by the stimulus -- installing new pipes for water and sewage systems, repairing and upgrading equipment, basic construction -- but contractors have to be nudged both to provide the training and to do the hiring.

I'd suggest that all contracts entered into with stimulus funds require contractors to provide at least 20 percent of jobs to the long-term unemployed and to people withincomes at or below 200 percent of the federal poverty level. And at least 2 percent of project funds should be allocated to such training. In addition, advantage should be taken of buildings trades apprenticeships -- wich must be fully available to women and minorities.


Really sounds like he hates white people, huh?

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Old 01-22-2009, 08:05 PM   #13
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Umm...., Dave..... Robert Reich is a white guy....

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Old 01-22-2009, 08:28 PM   #14
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Umm...., Dave..... Robert Reich is a white guy....

I know that. Him and Rangel want to "do things their way" with the stimulus money for inferstructure (sp?)

Listening to the clips was kind of disturbing. Especially when they say "It doesn't take much to "train Peopleto do this". What a couple of pompous asses.
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I know that. Him and Rangel want to "do things their way" with the stimulus money for inferstructure (sp?)

Listening to the clips was kind of disturbing. Especially when they say "It doesn't take much to "train Peopleto do this". What a couple of pompous asses.
Hey, I understand your concerns and sympathize, I wasn't trying to necessarily agree with it either.

I do absolutely believe that we need to focus some energy on creating jobs in the 'green' sector, but I see no reason why it shouldn't go the qualified people, whatever the color or sex is!

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Hey, I understand your concerns and sympathize, I wasn't trying to necessarily agree with it either.

I do absolutely believe that we need to focus some energy on creating jobs in the 'green' sector, but I see no reason why it shouldn't go the qualified people, whatever the color or sex is!
I agree. I don't care what color their skin is or what sex they are either. Whoever is qualified...

He made it sound like; we'll take this group of unqualified people and train them in a few weeks. Then they can go out and build our bridges.... This isn't a quote, just my loose interpretation of their "little talk".
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thats good

Because i'm part
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Old 01-22-2009, 09:08 PM   #18
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I agree. I don't care what color their skin is or what sex they are either. Whoever is qualified...

He made it sound like; we'll take this group of unqualified people and train them in a few weeks. Then they can go out and build our bridges.... This isn't a quote, just my loose interpretation of their "little talk".
I also think that there is an opportunity to bring people from urban centers into this process as well... We can install all the solar panels we want on someones second home on the cape, but we really need to move this process forward in urban settings as well.. I guess the way I read it is that they want to take some percentage of the stimulus money and train people for these jobs.

"20 percent of jobs to the long-term unemployed and to people withincomes at or below 200 percent of the federal poverty level. And at least 2 percent of project funds should be allocated to such training. In addition, advantage should be taken of buildings trades apprenticeships -- which must be fully available to women and minorities."

To me it sounds like some percentage (maybe 20% is high) should go to people chronically out of work (again I would add that are qualified to do the work) and at least 2% goes to training new (or retraining older???) workers and this should be available to women and minorities, not has to be available and excluding white guys.....


but thats my take on it, and we know what opinions are like

I wish you and tagger the best in finding work ASAP!

Bryan

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Old 01-22-2009, 10:16 PM   #19
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I thought the first bailout was a mistake....has since proven to be so! I say no more and let em' go belly up! Survival of the fittest! If they (auto makers) can't get into the 21st century technology maybe its time for them to go!

Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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Old 01-23-2009, 10:05 AM   #20
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sorry Eddie, and Dave. Well Eddie if you still aren't working in late April we can get some nice weekday tin boat fishin in, but I hope you are.

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