Unenjoyment ...

[MAC]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Hey, I understand your concerns and sympathize, I wasn't trying to necessarily agree with it either.

I do absolutely believe that we need to focus some energy on creating jobs in the 'green' sector, but I see no reason why it shouldn't go the qualified people, whatever the color or sex is!

I agree. I don't care what color their skin is or what sex they are either. Whoever is qualified...

He made it sound like; we'll take this group of unqualified people and train them in a few weeks. Then they can go out and build our bridges.... This isn't a quote, just my loose interpretation of their "little talk".

[Raven]

Because i'm part
of the green sector

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by MAC

I agree. I don't care what color their skin is or what sex they are either. Whoever is qualified...

He made it sound like; we'll take this group of unqualified people and train them in a few weeks. Then they can go out and build our bridges.... This isn't a quote, just my loose interpretation of their "little talk".

I also think that there is an opportunity to bring people from urban centers into this process as well... We can install all the solar panels we want on someones second home on the cape, but we really need to move this process forward in urban settings as well.. I guess the way I read it is that they want to take some percentage of the stimulus money and train people for these jobs.

"20 percent of jobs to the long-term unemployed and to people withincomes at or below 200 percent of the federal poverty level. And at least 2 percent of project funds should be allocated to such training. In addition, advantage should be taken of buildings trades apprenticeships -- which must be fully available to women and minorities."

To me it sounds like some percentage (maybe 20% is high) should go to people chronically out of work (again I would add that are qualified to do the work) and at least 2% goes to training new (or retraining older???) workers and this should be available to women and minorities, not has to be available and excluding white guys.....


but thats my take on it, and we know what opinions are like

I wish you and tagger the best in finding work ASAP!

[Backbeach Jake]

Sorry to hear you guys aren't working. This economy scares the crap out of me. Jobs gone overseas and the manufacturers wondering where their customers went, duh. Foreclosures (really bad mojo in my book) means that there are too many houses and no money to pay for them so why build. The working man's shoulders hold this country aloft, and when he gets knocked off his feet, then what? My business is booming, people are repairing their cars and not buying new. The boss wants me to work crazy overtime but I can't , too old and tired, so he puts in a second shift, which is fine by me , more guys have jobs, not a bad thing. We're in for a rocky road in the next 2 years, I figure. We're all in this together, we're all connected..

[MAC]

The main problem with our line of work is financing. No matter what the TV is telling us, the money isn't there. I've seen 4 different projects either stop or never start.

On one particular job the banks want a name. They (a group of Doctors) can't use a corp. The bank wants an individuals name not their corp. Money is tight and the first "bailout" was crap as far as I am concerned.

[BigFish]

I thought the first bailout was a mistake....has since proven to be so! I say no more and let em' go belly up! Survival of the fittest! If they (auto makers) can't get into the 21st century technology maybe its time for them to go!

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by BigFish

I thought the first bailout was a mistake....has since proven to be so! I say no more and let em' go belly up! Survival of the fittest! If they (auto makers) can't get into the 21st century technology maybe its time for them to go!

I agree. Bailing out the banks is one thing, but automakers? They've already reported that they're still in rough shape. The bailout will just be a waste of money and delay the inevitable. Development in the automotive industry is too slow for a one time injection to "fix everything."

There's no replacement for a good business model. Unfortunately for them, they're business models are no longer relevant. Let them fail.

[Backbeach Jake]

If people had good paying jobs and didn't have to compete with China, the automakers and banks wouldn't need a friggin bailout. But the automakers sent jobs to the four corners of the third world and the banks lent to the underemployed. Both bit themselves in the ass.