banning lead sinkers at ccns beaches?

[maddmatt]

does anybody have any more info?

is the cold war w/ the park service/fed gov over?

is this a shooting war yet?

[Rappin Mikey]

Say it ain't so. That will put a hamper on my kayasting from shore.

[2na]

you could always use beach bricks as weights, Mikey -

Matt, headed to Truro to open the cottage this weekend. I'll try to swing by the station and see what they say, but it sounds like a done deal. It gives the powers that be justification for a new position (Lead Detective) fancy new lead detection gear and search and seizure powers.

Oh, and I don't think it is just CCNS, probably the entire park system.

[derf]

read it and weep !!



For Immediate Release:

March 10, 2009
Contact(s): David Barna, 202-208-6843

Bert Frost, 202-208-3884

National Park Service Gets the Lead Out!
WASHINGTON – National Park Service visitors and wildlife have something to cheer about today with the agency’s stepped-up efforts to reduce lead in national park environments.
“Our goal is to eliminate the use of lead ammunition and lead fishing tackle in parks by the end of 2010,” said Acting National Park Service Director Dan Wenk. “We want to take a leadership role in removing lead from the environment.”
The new lead reduction efforts also include changes in NPS activities, such as culling operations or the dispatching of wounded or sick animals. Rangers and resource managers will use non-lead ammunition to prevent environmental contamination as well as lead poisoning of scavenger species who may eventually feed upon the carcass. Non-toxic substitutes for lead made in the United States are now widely available including tungsten, copper, and steel.
The NPS will also develop educational materials to increase awareness about the consequences of lead exposure and the benefits of using lead-free ammunition and fishing tackle.
Lead is an environmental contaminant affecting many areas of the world, including our national parks. Lead is banned in gasoline, children’s toys, and paint because of its effects on human health. In the United States, there is an accelerating trend to expand efforts to reduce lead contamination associated with firearms and hunting. California and Arizona have recently implemented mandatory and voluntary bans, respectively, on lead ammunition to facilitate California condor recovery. And Yellowstone National Park has had restrictions on lead fishing tackle for years to protect native species and their habitats.
Resource managers recognize that hunting and fishing play an important historical role in the complicated and intensive management of wildlife populations. Because of this history, these activities continue in some parks and, in some cases, even enhance the park’s primary purpose to preserve natural environments and native species. The new restrictions on lead will ensure environmentally safe practices are implemented to protect park visitors and lands.
Wenk adds, “The reduction and eventual removal of lead on park service lands will benefit humans, wildlife, and ecosystems inside and outside park boundaries and continue our legacy of resource stewardship.”

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[zimmy]

Does it mean lead sinkers? Or does it mean lead in plugs and lures, terminal tackle etc. The sentiment is good, but I wonder where the line will be.

[Pt.JudeJoe]

$h!ttT! First they take away my favorite snack,..lead paint chips, and now they want to stop me from eating lead sinkers!!Maybe I could switch to grilled plovers.

[derf]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Does it mean lead sinkers? Or does it mean lead in plugs and lures, terminal tackle etc. The sentiment is good, but I wonder where the line will be.

from what i have read on the 'net' ; it means sinkers , lures , tackle etc .
a 'line ' needs to be established .
i can see the ban for freshwater ... but the ocean ???

[Rob Rockcrawler]

I sent an email to the NE regional office to try and get some more info about the lead ban. I asked about larger weights and internal pluggage weight. I hope to get some answers to our concerns.

[Crafty Angler]

Well, there goes my investment in precious metals in the basement...

[DZ]

Just heard that the lead ban also extends to all sailboats that use lead for their keel.

DZ

[Crafty Angler]

Maybe I ought to look into investing in bismuth or antimony...

[kickin'bass ass]

can we switch to murcury?!?damn tree huggers

[Slipknot]

Are they going to remove all the lead flashing used in the buildings along the seashore also? I doubt it.
I can see banning the small stuff that can harm birds and stuff but large stuff is not likely to be confused with eggs or something. It's going to have to be a process and shouldn't be jumped into.

[maddmatt]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

Are they going to remove all the lead flashing used in the buildings along the seashore also? I doubt it.
I can see banning the small stuff that can harm birds and stuff but large stuff is not likely to be confused with eggs or something. It's going to have to be a process and shouldn't be jumped into.

don't believe tit

the environazi's won't compromise, neither should we

give them an inch.....

never let the feds get involved with anything you don't want to see destroyed

[Back Beach]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

It's going to have to be a process and shouldn't be jumped into.

Right on Slip, so no need for anyone to get overly alarmed until the facts come out. So far I've seen no facts here, just suppositions.

[Rob Rockcrawler]

This is what i got back from the NPS. I applaud them for getting back with me so quickly. I think i sent the email to him on saturday morning. I was surprised to get a responce this fast.

Dear Mr. Cerny,
Thank you for your email concerning the use of lead lures in nationalparks. The recent announcement of the National Park Service aboutlead-based hunting and fishing equipment focused on halting the use ofthose items in our own activities, with the ultimate goal of removing leadfrom the environment. Before any restrictions are placed on fishermen orhunters, parks will follow a process that will include notification ofproposed rules and the opportunity for comment by interested members of thepublic. I have sent a copy of this email to Superintendent George Prices at CapeCod National Seashore for his information, and to let him know of yourconcerns. Thanks for your interest, and for your support of the National ParkService!

Sincerely,
Phil SheridanAssistant Regional Director,
Communications National Park Service Northeast Region
200 Chestnut StreetPhiladelphia, PA 19106
215-597-0865

[Back Beach]

Originally Posted by Rob Rockcrawler

This is what i got back from the NPS. I applaud them for getting back with me so quickly. I think i sent the email to him on saturday morning. I was surprised to get a responce this fast.

Dear Mr. Cerny,
Thank you for your email concerning the use of lead lures in nationalparks. The recent announcement of the National Park Service aboutlead-based hunting and fishing equipment focused on halting the use ofthose items in our own activities, with the ultimate goal of removing leadfrom the environment. Before any restrictions are placed on fishermen orhunters, parks will follow a process that will include notification ofproposed rules and the opportunity for comment by interested members of thepublic. I have sent a copy of this email to Superintendent George Prices at CapeCod National Seashore for his information, and to let him know of yourconcerns. Thanks for your interest, and for your support of the National ParkService!

Sincerely,
Phil SheridanAssistant Regional Director,
Communications National Park Service Northeast Region
200 Chestnut StreetPhiladelphia, PA 19106
215-597-0865

And the truth shall set you free.....

[Mr. Sandman]

Get use to it. It's gonna happen. No lead. Not in jigs, not in sinkers, not in plugs.

I saw a study that showed how much lead gets on your hands just handling sinkers when you put on one your line...should you eat a sandwich afterwards without washing with warm water and soap for 20 seconds.... you are now poisoning yourself is significant. Perhaps this is why bottom fishermen seem less intelligent then most other fishermen (just kidding)

What about all the comms and Striper cup yahoos who support yo-yoing? Actually dumping hundred of # of lead directly INTO fish, many of which escape. These fish digest or pass the lead but some of it has to be absorbed in the fish. Then either get re-caught and eaten OR spawn. Does this lead poisoning effect the eggs of the young? Too many serious questions, best to be conservative and stop all lead. There are substitutes.

It will take a while to phase everything out, if I had to guess...probably 5 years.

BTW, last time I looked lead cost more than .60/lb, it is more like a buck+. Perhaps you van get it for .60 if you buy it by the ton.

[maddmatt]

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If this whole thing includes internal weights in lures etc then say goodbye to the use of all wood lures that have ever been made...and say hello to $25-50 poppers instead of $10-12.00....as well as many other forms of tackle...

This ban will DRAMATICALLY increase the cost of all fishing tackle....and I will go so far as to say it will put MANY out of business.

I find it most interesting that they haven't made any kind of clarifications on this stuff. Almost like they're doing this by the seat of their pants...or they're being lobbied by someone to eliminate fishing...

If you look at what other states have done they eliminate small size stuff due to the bird ingestion issues, but there are specific exemptions for things like lures that have the lead encapsulated in them or glued inside...

What's absolutely ridiculous about this whole lead issue is that lead has been used for almost 10,000 years as a building material, as an additive in many many manufactured items-many of which could not exist today unless it was there...many things that people use every day like glasses, silverware, etc.

I think the ban will be un-enforceable. What are they going to do stop you from fishing, cut your lure open and swab it for lead? It just doesn't make any sense.

thank you salty!!!!!

finally a voice of reason

draw the line

[Raven]

glad to hear (read) that Scott