The #300 Submersible Reel - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

JohnR · 08-02-2009, 03:28 PM

The #300 Submersible Reel. Kidding, well, sort of.

No, I'm not pushing some new $300 reel or any other submersible spinner but I've always joked around that one day I would do one (I'm not capable, really). But shouldn't a $300 reel be realistic?

But playing the theoretical for a little bit, how would you get an affordable reel, with decent reliability and repairability so that you could hold a street price around $300?

Is it even conceivable to forgo the machined billet aluminum, titanium this, and dipped that to make up this fictional reel? So lets have a little fun and build up the Virtual Dunker...

numbskull · 08-02-2009, 03:59 PM

Whadda ya mean. I got a submersible reel that I bought for $275 from BB. Here it is.

Raven · 08-02-2009, 05:06 PM

yes you can forego the machined aluminum by using the virtual printer method
but it should be made of carbon nano tube technology with a dual seal built in...
same as vessels that haul oil...

problem is... carbon nano tube technology which is in it's infancy is still too expensive,,,,
but the lightness and strength would be unsurpassed.

JohnR · 08-02-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven

yes you can forego the machined aluminum by using the virtual printer method
but it should be made of carbon nano tube technology with a dual seal built in...
same as vessels that haul oil...

problem is... carbon nano tube technology which is in it's infancy is still too expensive,,,,
but the lightness and strength would be unsurpassed.

$300

spence · 08-02-2009, 06:25 PM

Does the $300 MSRP have to be at a profit or a loss?

-spence

JohnR · 08-02-2009, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

Does the $300 MSRP have to be at a profit or a loss?

-spence

Profit. We're not all subsidized Communists (yet

)

piemma · 08-03-2009, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

Does the $300 MSRP have to be at a profit or a loss?

-spence

WOW!!!! A Spence post. Where the hell have you been?????

DZ · 08-03-2009, 06:49 AM

Just give me a Penn 706 with infinite silent anti-reverse and a sealed drag weighing around 20-23 ounces - doesn't need to be dunk proof for me. Dunk proof is nice but I fished for many years without a VS. The booming popularity for swimming with the fishes has pushed the demand for waterproof reels - I don't think you can build one for $300.

DZ

Joe · 08-03-2009, 07:06 AM

If you had that kind of capital, you'd be a fool to spend it developing a fishing reel.

Raven · 08-03-2009, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR

$300

i held a front fork of a bicycle made out of it
so it is being done.

JohnR · 08-03-2009, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe

If you had that kind of capital, you'd be a fool to spend it developing a fishing reel.

So true, but it never hurts to dream a little

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Originally Posted by Raven

i held a front fork of a bicycle made out of it
so it is being done.

Again, $300 - here is a bike using said technology, discounted half off retail is only $3300 greater than reel budget

Fishpart · 08-03-2009, 08:29 AM

Why not bend up some SS and injection mold fiberglass reinforced plastic around it, dimensionally stable and rigid enough to hold bearings seals whatever. All screw holes can be machined into SS strip or mold in brass inserts. Groove in molding for a gasket and viola done...

Now to come up with $$$ for tooling..

Raven · 08-03-2009, 08:51 AM

i realize that carbon fiber technology is expensive...

just seems like the machining process is where the cost of reel making goes sky high....

so when you change technologies you gain advantages.
A reel is allot smaller than a bicycle....

it'll be another ten years i guess.... ayep

Back Beach · 08-03-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by numbskull

Whadda ya mean. I got a submersible reel that I bought for $275 from BB. Here it is.

Looks like you still haven't found the homing device, at least I don't see it in the picture...

Flaptail · 08-04-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by numbskull

Whadda ya mean. I got a submersible reel that I bought for $275 from BB. Here it is.

Sucker

Flaptail · 08-04-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DZ

Just give me a Penn 706 with infinite silent anti-reverse and a sealed drag weighing around 20-23 ounces - doesn't need to be dunk proof for me. Dunk proof is nice but I fished for many years without a VS. The booming popularity for swimming with the fishes has pushed the demand for waterproof reels - I don't think you can build one for $300.

DZ

On Cape here, except for the low rent district that Numbskull and Sauerkraut live in with all those rocks and slime ans sh!t, if you swim with the fishes off of a sand beach you have a real problem on your hands, therefore a ZB or VanZebco is a non-nescesity

FishermanTim · 08-04-2009, 10:36 AM

Heck, ALL my reels are submersible (just not reusable afterwards)

Justfishin' · 08-04-2009, 08:13 PM

I think I'd try to retrofit an existing reel- a Z series, SS , Shimano, Diawa etc with good seals or machine a body and rotor that has room for all the running gear from one of those reels and good sealed bearings. Like Accurate did with Squidders-

Green Light · 08-04-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Justfishin'

I think I'd try to retrofit an existing reel- a Z series, SS , Shimano, Diawa etc with good seals or machine a body and rotor that has room for all the running gear from one of those reels and good sealed bearings. Like Accurate did with Squidders-

Not that's a idea. Instead of building a $300.00 dunk proof reel, why not just build an after market "conversion kit" for an existing reel. The "conversion" may have to be done in a shop. I.e., instead of re-inventing the wheel, just modify and enhance it.

People make after market parts for cars, so why not reels? Humm...

JohnnyD · 08-04-2009, 09:43 PM

How about this one?

Cabela's Salt Striker
http://www.cabelas.com/p-0036333120576a.shtml

Sealed drags, sealed bearings. I don't know anyone that has owned one though.

fishbones · 08-04-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD

How about this one?

Cabela's Salt Striker
http://www.cabelas.com/p-0036333120576a.shtml

Sealed drags, sealed bearings. I don't know anyone that has owned one though.

I haven't used any of their reels, but I think I read that they'e made in China. I doubt I'd attempt swimming with one, but they could be a decent bargain reel for regular surf fishing. This one looks to have a pretty good customer rating.

JohnnyD · 08-04-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by fishbones

I haven't used any of their reels, but I think I read that they'e made in China. I doubt I'd attempt swimming with one, but they could be a decent bargain reel for regular surf fishing. This one looks to have a pretty good customer rating.

I'm pretty sure they are made in China. I was just throwing it out there as it has sealed drags and bearings for only $60 (well, the Fall Cabela's catalog that I got today says $40). So, some modifications on the design could yield the groundwork for a sub-$300 Submersible.

Raven · 08-05-2009, 04:35 AM

or a way to blow them out with water fittings

without having to disassemble it.