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		|  11-09-2012, 10:11 AM | #1 |  
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				Iran shooting at US drones?
			 
 Escalation?  Question of air space... 
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		|  11-09-2012, 10:32 AM | #2 |  
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				 | They didn't shoot it down...they shot at it. It was un-harmed and returned to base fine. 
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		|  11-09-2012, 10:51 AM | #3 |  
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					Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman  They didn't shoot it down...they shot at it. It was un-harmed and returned to base fine. 
Don't peoiple get upset when the media sensationalizes things   |  You mean like another thread saying hispanics are "knocking on the door at the white house?"
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		|  11-09-2012, 10:53 AM | #4 |  
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					Originally Posted by likwid  You mean like another thread saying hispanics are "knocking on the door at the white house?"  |  LOL!!! 1 point for Likwid
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		|  11-09-2012, 12:01 PM | #5 |  
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		|  11-09-2012, 12:31 PM | #6 |  
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					Originally Posted by Scuttlebutt   |  So are they holding up signs for the media or are they paying their $20 for the whitehouse tour? Its pretty cool, you should do it sometime. |  
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		|  11-09-2012, 12:44 PM | #7 |  
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				 | Not to hijack PR's thread...which, by the way, is a good one for discussion. Last time I checked touring the White House was free. Maybe BO is now charging $20 to help pay down the deficit..haha! Back to PR's topic... |  
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		|  11-09-2012, 02:11 PM | #8 |  
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				 | Hispanic voters, who were instrumental in putting Barack Obama back in the White House, now hope the president will work diligently in his second term to cross some big to-dos off their legislative wish list: jobs, affordable education, health care access and immigration reform.
 
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		|  11-09-2012, 02:12 PM | #9 |  
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 We voted – now let’s get things done.   That was the strong takeaway today from Latino leaders and activists during a discussion of the sweeping and historic Latino vote in yesterday’s election.
 
 “Last night Latinos confirmed unequivocally that the road to the White House goes through Hispanic neighborhoods,” said Clarissa Martinez De Castro, from the National Council of La Raza (NCLR).  ”The Latino giant is wide awake, cranky and is taking names,” said labor leader Eliseo Medina, of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU).
 
 Yesterday’s Latino vote made history in two ways.  Over 12 million Latinos came out to vote, according to preliminary numbers, and for all the handwringing about whether Latinos would have the enthusiasm or numbers to vote, this is a 22 percent increase from 2008.  Just over 10 percent of the nation’s voters were Hispanic.
 
 Moreover, President Obama received 75 percent of the Latino vote, according to impreMedia/Latino Decisions exit polls, thus obtaining the highest number of Latino voters; President Clinton received about 72 percent in 1996.
 
 These numbers translated to a “watershed moment,” in the words of Latino Decisions co-principal and Stanford University political scientist Gary Segura.  For the first time in history, Segura explained, the Latino vote can plausibly claim to be nationally decisive in the presidential election.   Latinos gave a 5.3 percent bump to President Obama, according to Latino Decisions’ numbers.  This was crucial in battleground states with close margins between Obama and Romney.
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		|  11-09-2012, 02:29 PM | #10 |  
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(ps: i have no clue what it costs if at all to visit the white house. it was a joke)
 
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		|  11-09-2012, 02:31 PM | #11 |  
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					Originally Posted by likwid    
(ps: i have no clue what it costs if at all to visit the white house. it was a joke)
 
back to your regularly scheduled Reaper attacks. |  might do you some good to visit Washington. You may appreciate this country a little more and the hard work and sacrifice that went into building it |  
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		|  11-09-2012, 02:53 PM | #12 |  
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					Originally Posted by RIJIMMY  might do you some good to visit Washington. You may appreciate this country a little more and the hard work and sacrifice that went into building it |  Thank you for your concern Jimmy, but I've been to Washington and other important places plenty of times both work and pleasure, just haven't visited the White House.
 
Have you been to Gettysburg and done the tour? I have. Howabout the Alamo? Beat you by about 10 years probably.    
Now piss off.    
TEHRAN — Iran’s defense minister on Friday confirmed that Iranian warplanes had fired shots at an American drone last week but said they had taken the action after the unmanned aircraft had entered Iranian airspace.
 
NYT article. 
I'm pretty sure we get pissed off when unauthorized stuff enters our airspace. 
AF goes absolutely berserk if you violate airspace over various ranges.
 
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It is unclear why Iranian officials had kept the episode a secret. It also is unclear, from the Iranian account, whether the warplanes had sought to down the drone and missed, or had fired warning shots to chase it away. 
We don't shoot to kill on first pass either. Warning shots are pretty standard across the board, unless you're Bush Jr.   
They're not exactly fast or super maneuverable.
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		|  11-09-2012, 02:57 PM | #13 |  
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					Originally Posted by likwid  Thank you for your concern Jimmy, but I've been to Washington and other important places plenty of times both work and pleasure, just haven't visited the White House. 
Have you been to Gettysburg and done the tour? I have. Howabout the Alamo? Beat you by about 10 years probably.    
Now piss off.   |  doubt it, 10 yrs ago I had already driven cross country, coast to coast 4 times and -  first time in 1991 and last time in 2000. Stopped everywhere along the way, 2 trips northern route, 2 trips southern. I've been everywhere man, I've been everywhere. |  
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		|  11-09-2012, 04:20 PM | #14 |  
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					Originally Posted by RIJIMMY  doubt it, 10 yrs ago I had already driven cross country, coast to coast 4 times and -  first time in 1991 and last time in 2000. Stopped everywhere along the way, 2 trips northern route, 2 trips southern. I've been everywhere man, I've been everywhere. |  Whoopie, you drove cross country, that didn't answer the question! 
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		|  11-09-2012, 05:25 PM | #15 |  
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					Originally Posted by likwid   |  oh, sorry -  i said stopped everywhere along the way  
Yup - gettysburg @ 1990 while driving to a friends  
Alamo -  went about 5 times. I worked in San Antonio on a project and was there every month for a year.
 
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DC 3 times 
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St Augustine -  some fort there, cant remember
 
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		|  11-09-2012, 06:10 PM | #16 |  
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					Originally Posted by likwid  TEHRAN —  Iran’s defense minister on Friday confirmed that Iranian warplanes had fired shots at an American drone last week but said they had taken the action after the unmanned aircraft had entered Iranian airspace. 
NYT article. 
I'm pretty sure we get pissed off when unauthorized stuff enters our airspace. 
AF goes absolutely berserk if you violate airspace over various ranges.
 
Nother interesting part:
It is unclear why Iranian officials had kept the episode a secret. It also is unclear, from the Iranian account, whether the warplanes had sought to down the drone and missed, or had fired warning shots to chase it away. 
We don't shoot to kill on first pass either. Warning shots are pretty standard across the board, unless you're Bush Jr.   
They're not exactly fast or super maneuverable. |  I love how you use what Iran’s defense minister says and run with it as the truth. 
Why did Iran keep it a secret ??? Your effin kidding right? |  
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		|  11-10-2012, 06:25 AM | #17 |  
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					Originally Posted by buckman  I love how you use what Iran’s defense minister says and run with it as the truth.Why did Iran keep it a secret ??? Your effin kidding right?
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		|  11-10-2012, 04:22 PM | #18 |  
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				 | Not to be a surprise spoiler but I think you will see drones testing more and more of Iranian airspace.  For various reasons.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  11-10-2012, 05:39 PM | #19 |  
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		|  11-12-2012, 09:18 AM | #20 |  
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					Originally Posted by PRBuzz  Escalation? Question of air space... |  
How friggan bad is your aim that an Iranian Air Force pilot couldn't hit a drone?  Jiminey, they only fly about 100 m.p.h. don't they.  Must've been one of thier old missiles, right?  |  
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		|  11-12-2012, 09:24 AM | #21 |  
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					Originally Posted by Swimmer  How friggan bad is your aim that an Iranian Air Force pilot couldn't hit a drone?  Jiminey, they only fly about 100 m.p.h. don't they.  Must've been one of thier old missiles, right?  |  But they are teeny, tiny little flying machines...slow small target?  
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		|  11-12-2012, 09:28 AM | #22 |  
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					Originally Posted by RIJIMMY  oh, sorry -  i said stopped everywhere along the way Yup - gettysburg @ 1990 while driving to a friends
 Alamo -  went about 5 times. I worked in San Antonio on a project and was there every month for a year.
 
 add in peal harbor
 DC 3 times
 Liberty Hall in PA
 Grand Ole Opry
 Graceland
 Ft Sumter
 Fort Ticonderoga
 St Augustine -  some fort there, cant remember
 
 
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		|  11-12-2012, 09:30 AM | #23 |  
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					Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND   |  I suppose Graceland is patriotic if you're into fat dudes who died on the pooper.   |  
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		|  11-12-2012, 11:34 AM | #24 |  
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					Originally Posted by PRBuzz  Escalation?  Question of air space... |  
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					Originally Posted by likwid   |  My short term memory issue combined with all the edits leaves me with just one question.....Why is anyone picking on Elvis?   |  
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		|  11-12-2012, 11:36 AM | #25 |  
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					Originally Posted by likwid  I suppose Graceland is patriotic if you're into fat dudes who died on the pooper.   |  and influenced the way music would be played around the globe, like forever |  
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