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01-25-2019, 08:33 PM
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Sarah Sanders of her rocker
This women Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has the GOP panties in a bunch even on climate change
"I don't think we're going to listen to her on much of anything, particularly not on matters that we're going to leave in to the hands of a much, much higher authority," Sanders said on Sean Hannity's Fox News program on Tuesday night. She argued that the country should leave the fate of the planet in "the hands of something and someone much more powerful than any of us," presumably referring to God.
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01-26-2019, 05:35 AM
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This women Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has the GOP panties in a bunch even on climate change
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I'm pretty sure 100% of the GOP is hoping she runs for President...I heard 70% of democrats would vote for her for president,,,,I know I would
when you use AOC and panties in the same sentence.... 
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01-26-2019, 07:44 AM
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I'm pretty sure 100% of the GOP is hoping she runs for President...I heard 70% of democrats would vote for her for president,,,,I know I would
when you use AOC and panties in the same sentence.... 
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so this idiot claims
to knownthe planet will
die in 12 years, and wdmso is ok with that statement. but he is offended when the white house dismisses it.
he is also wrong about how we feel about her, as you said she is a precious gift to republicans.
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01-26-2019, 07:48 AM
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I'm pretty sure 100% of the GOP is hoping she runs for President...I heard 70% of democrats would vote for her for president,,,,I know I would
when you use AOC and panties in the same sentence.... 
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Sadly this has nothing with her running for POTUS
But when Sanders uses GOD or she is referring to Trump to solve America issues... with this Higher power ..
"the country should leave the fate of the planet in "the hands of something and someone much more powerful than any of us,"
Seeing Tumps administration mission has been to rollback any environmental rules to help out corporations... asking God to fix things when your done is asking a lot
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01-26-2019, 08:42 AM
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, as you said she is a precious gift to republicans.
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wrapped in a nice little package 
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01-26-2019, 11:01 AM
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so this idiot claims
to knownthe planet will
die in 12 years, and wdmso is ok with that statement. but he is offended when the white house dismisses it.
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She's just referencing a recent intergovernmental report which cites 2030 as a tipping point. If that happened the relationship between people and the planet will forever be changed. She’s a hell of a lot more accurate than those who call climate change a hoax.
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01-26-2019, 11:23 AM
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She's just referencing a recent intergovernmental report which cites 2030 as a tipping point. If that happened the relationship between people and the planet will forever be changed. She’s a hell of a lot more accurate than those who call climate change a hoax.
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oh man...imagine if she got some hot for teacher glasses 
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01-26-2019, 11:57 AM
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AOC needs a hat....MASTA "Make America Socialist Totally Awesome" 
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01-26-2019, 01:09 PM
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She's just referencing a recent intergovernmental report which cites 2030 as a tipping point. If that happened the relationship between people and the planet will forever be changed. She’s a hell of a lot more accurate than those who call climate change a hoax.
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well if that’s what she was referencing, she’s as stupid at math as she is at everything else because that’s 11 years.
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01-26-2019, 01:13 PM
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well if that’s what she was referencing, she’s as stupid at math as she is at everything else because that’s 11 years.
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It’s called rounding up. What do you do for a living again?
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01-26-2019, 01:16 PM
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It’s called rounding up. What do you do for a living again?
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oh, so the report knows the exact day that’s the tipping point. wow. this how many climate change predictions have come to pass, exactly?
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01-26-2019, 04:10 PM
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so jim you have no issues with our elected officials and their spokespersons
leaving the solutions of America's problems up to God ...
Ok may God can build your wall if you pray hard enough ...
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01-26-2019, 05:50 PM
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so jim you have no issues with our elected officials and their spokespersons
leaving the solutions of America's problems up to God ...
Ok may God can build your wall if you pray hard enough ...
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I have no problem with the press secretary saying that human beings have absolutely no business saying that they know what day the earth will end on.
If a Christian claimed the world was ending, you'd lock them up. And you'd be right to say that.
NOTHING that the climate change fanatics said would happen, has happened. Thanks God.
I believe the climate is changing, I believe man is influencing it. I believe that it's impossible to predict the effects, because there are too many variables we don't come close to understanding.
So let's study it. I'll pay taxes to study it. But have honest scientists study it, not people who already have their mind made up.
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01-26-2019, 07:43 PM
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So let's study it. I'll pay taxes to study it. But have honest scientists study it, not people who already have their mind made up.
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Really thats your take we need honest scientists to study it ??
It has been studied at length
There is an 85 % Consensus On Anthropogenic Climate Change that's a bunch of dishonest scientists
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01-27-2019, 10:30 AM
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Really thats your take we need honest scientists to study it ??
It has been studied at length
There is an 85 % Consensus On Anthropogenic Climate Change that's a bunch of dishonest scientists
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it’s been studied by ideologues who keep making dire predictions that don’t come true. i’m not impressed.
i said i agree there’s climate change, maybe you need to take a reading comprehension course. we have no idea when the impacts will be, not do we know if it can be offset by changing our behavior. al gore wants his
mansions and jets, and wants me to live in a yurt and take the bus. not so fast.
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01-27-2019, 12:18 PM
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and there you have it why the Republicans cannot get college-educated people to vote for them. Lack of belief in science
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01-27-2019, 02:45 PM
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and there you have it why the Republicans cannot get college-educated people to vote for them. Lack of belief in science
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paul, how many times do their predictions have to fail
to come true, before you’d be skeptical? when someone is wrong again and again, it makes
me a science denier if i’m skeptical of the next dire warning?
your side can’t grasp two genders. they can’t begin to grasp economics 101. they deny, at least in NY, that a baby is human on the day of birth. they’re suddenly the worlds greatest scientists?
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01-27-2019, 03:03 PM
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it’s been studied by ideologues who keep making dire predictions that don’t come true. i’m not impressed.
i said i agree there’s climate change, maybe you need to take a reading comprehension course. we have no idea when the impacts will be, not do we know if it can be offset by changing our behavior. al gore wants his
mansions and jets, and wants me to live in a yurt and take the bus. not so fast.
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And No one every thought we could overfish the oceans how's that working out ....
But lets let the Trump Administration roll back anything environmental rule or regulation he can ... because nothing cataclysmic has happened yet ... cant argue with that kind of logic
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01-27-2019, 03:07 PM
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paul, how many times do their predictions have to fail
to come true, before you’d be skeptical? when someone is wrong again and again, it makes
me a science denier if i’m skeptical of the next dire warning?
your side can’t grasp two genders. they can’t begin to grasp economics 101. they deny, at least in NY, that a baby is human on the day of birth. they’re suddenly the worlds greatest scientists?
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Actually if you look at the prediction models back to the 1970s compared to actual measurements most are pretty close.
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01-27-2019, 03:08 PM
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And No one every thought we could overfish the oceans how's that working out ....
But lets let the Trump Administration roll back anything environmental rule or regulation he can ... because nothing cataclysmic has happened yet ... cant argue with that kind of logic
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but when people said fish stocks could never crash, and then they did, we no longer took seriously, the clowns who were spectacularly wrong. That's my point, how many times do they have egg on their faces, when you would wonder if they were fudging the numbers?
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01-27-2019, 03:11 PM
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Actually if you look at the prediction models back to the 1970s compared to actual measurements most are pretty close.
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The 1970s? That's when they said an ice age was coming. Then Al Gore said the ice caps would have gone, and then Obama said his first inauguration would be the day we remembered, as the day the waters stopped rising and the planet began to heal...but he's not a narcissist.
I love the environment, I cry watching nature documentaries when I see any animal struggling. My wife and I saved for YEARS to go to Alaska to watch brown bears snagging salmon at a waterfall, it was the coolest thing I ever saw, I want them doing that for another 1,000 years. I'm not willing to give up every comfort I know just yet, to ensure that.
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01-27-2019, 05:17 PM
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Show me long term indepth climate data that looks at more than a single data point that is incorrect.
I can say it's cold out, need some of that global warming now or some BS, that doesn't make it true.
Who said you would
Have to live in a yurt
Give up every comfort you know
It's like Trump saying Germany will be dependent on Russia for gas (though he wants to sell it to them), when their plans is to eliminate the use of fossil fuels.
We can keep investing in technology that will be outmoded (coal) gas and oil before too long or we can be on the cutting edge.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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01-27-2019, 06:20 PM
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Show me long term indepth climate data that looks at more than a single data point that is incorrect.
I can say it's cold out, need some of that global warming now or some BS, that doesn't make it true.
Who said you would
Have to live in a yurt
Give up every comfort you know
It's like Trump saying Germany will be dependent on Russia for gas (though he wants to sell it to them), when their plans is to eliminate the use of fossil fuels.
We can keep investing in technology that will be outmoded (coal) gas and oil before too long or we can be on the cutting edge.
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the polar ice caps were supposed to be gone by now. the models are based on wild assumptions, because we have no idea what the atmospheres ability is, or oceanic currents, to absorb current levels of emissions. so i’m the absence of
knowledge, they fill in the blanks with guesses. history shows they haven’t been very accurate guesses, because nothing they predicted would happen, has happened.
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01-27-2019, 06:24 PM
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We can keep investing in technology that will be outmoded (coal) gas and oil before too long or we can be on the cutting edge.
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people have ben saying as long as i’ve been alive ( longer), that oil
is on its way out. it’s nit true. another demonstrably false prediction.
i have no issue with investing. i have issues with transferring huge sums of money and power to the self proclaimed leaders of this movement. especially given that they live in a way that spits in the face of what they say they believe.
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01-27-2019, 06:50 PM
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the polar ice caps were supposed to be gone by now. the models are based on wild assumptions, because we have no idea what the atmospheres ability is, or oceanic currents, to absorb current levels of emissions. so i’m the absence of
knowledge, they fill in the blanks with guesses. history shows they haven’t been very accurate guesses, because nothing they predicted would happen, has happened.
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What glaciers did you visit in Alaska, how much have they changed?
How much old ice is left in the Artic?
What happened to the Long Island lobster fishery?
Why do Hurricanes and cyclones do more damage
Does the insurance company you work for see climatic threats or are they waiting for “real” proof before they reassess their exposure.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
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Lets Go Darwin
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01-27-2019, 07:01 PM
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What glaciers did you visit in Alaska, how much have they changed?
How much old ice is left in the Artic?
What happened to the Long Island lobster fishery?
Why do Hurricanes and cyclones do more damage
Does the insurance company you work for see climatic threats or are they waiting for “real” proof before they reassess their exposure.
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i said i think the climate is changing, and i said i think we are contributing to it. i’m not an idiot. but we have absolutely no specific idea what’s happening, or what will happen, or what will happen if we respond. it’s almost pure speculation, because of the degree to which the
models are based on assumptions.
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01-27-2019, 07:50 PM
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i said i think the climate is changing, and i said i think we are contributing to it. i’m not an idiot. but we have absolutely no specific idea what’s happening, or what will happen, or what will happen if we respond. it’s almost pure speculation, because of the degree to which the
models are based on assumptions.
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So insurance firms are waiting for?
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01-28-2019, 06:40 AM
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So insurance firms are waiting for?
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i don’t understand that question.
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01-28-2019, 07:03 AM
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So insurance firms are waiting for?
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https://www.wsj.com/graphics/climate...y-recalculate/
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
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01-28-2019, 08:34 AM
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i can’t read it. the insurers have noticed change for awhile. frequency and severity of storms is increasing. but the insurers have no idea how to change forecasts if, say, we all drive electric cars. no one knows.
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