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Old 01-27-2019, 06:20 PM   #1
Jim in CT
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Show me long term indepth climate data that looks at more than a single data point that is incorrect.
I can say it's cold out, need some of that global warming now or some BS, that doesn't make it true.


Who said you would
Have to live in a yurt
Give up every comfort you know

It's like Trump saying Germany will be dependent on Russia for gas (though he wants to sell it to them), when their plans is to eliminate the use of fossil fuels.
We can keep investing in technology that will be outmoded (coal) gas and oil before too long or we can be on the cutting edge.
the polar ice caps were supposed to be gone by now. the models are based on wild assumptions, because we have no idea what the atmospheres ability is, or oceanic currents, to absorb current levels of emissions. so i’m the absence of
knowledge, they fill in the blanks with guesses. history shows they haven’t been very accurate guesses, because nothing they predicted would happen, has happened.
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Old 01-27-2019, 06:50 PM   #2
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the polar ice caps were supposed to be gone by now. the models are based on wild assumptions, because we have no idea what the atmospheres ability is, or oceanic currents, to absorb current levels of emissions. so i’m the absence of
knowledge, they fill in the blanks with guesses. history shows they haven’t been very accurate guesses, because nothing they predicted would happen, has happened.
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What glaciers did you visit in Alaska, how much have they changed?
How much old ice is left in the Artic?
What happened to the Long Island lobster fishery?
Why do Hurricanes and cyclones do more damage
Does the insurance company you work for see climatic threats or are they waiting for “real” proof before they reassess their exposure.
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Old 01-27-2019, 07:01 PM   #3
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What glaciers did you visit in Alaska, how much have they changed?
How much old ice is left in the Artic?
What happened to the Long Island lobster fishery?
Why do Hurricanes and cyclones do more damage
Does the insurance company you work for see climatic threats or are they waiting for “real” proof before they reassess their exposure.
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i said i think the climate is changing, and i said i think we are contributing to it. i’m not an idiot. but we have absolutely no specific idea what’s happening, or what will happen, or what will happen if we respond. it’s almost pure speculation, because of the degree to which the
models are based on assumptions.
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Old 01-27-2019, 07:50 PM   #4
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i said i think the climate is changing, and i said i think we are contributing to it. i’m not an idiot. but we have absolutely no specific idea what’s happening, or what will happen, or what will happen if we respond. it’s almost pure speculation, because of the degree to which the
models are based on assumptions.
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So insurance firms are waiting for?
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Old 01-28-2019, 06:40 AM   #5
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So insurance firms are waiting for?
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i don’t understand that question.
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Old 01-28-2019, 07:03 AM   #6
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So insurance firms are waiting for?
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https://www.wsj.com/graphics/climate...y-recalculate/
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Old 01-28-2019, 08:34 AM   #7
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i can’t read it. the insurers have noticed change for awhile. frequency and severity of storms is increasing. but the insurers have no idea how to change forecasts if, say, we all drive electric cars. no one knows.
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:01 AM   #8
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i can’t read it. the insurers have noticed change for awhile. frequency and severity of storms is increasing. but the insurers have no idea how to change forecasts if, say, we all drive electric cars. no one knows.
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So, because you can't quantify it, you can't justify it.

Sounds like a similar reason given by the people who don't want to build a wall, though those people want to do something about illegal immigration, not just stick their heads in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist.

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