This explains a lot

[JohnR]

https://www.axios.com/happy-presiden...6597bfba8.html

Most citizens cannot pass a basic Citizenship test.

I am mixed in that all citizens have the right to vote, but are they holding up their end of the bargain if they cannot pass a citizenship test?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by JohnR

https://www.axios.com/happy-presiden...6597bfba8.html

Most citizens cannot pass a basic Citizenship test.

I am mixed in that all citizens have the right to vote, but are they holding up their end of the bargain if they cannot pass a citizenship test?

It's not an accident that citizenship is not an important subject in our Progressive educational institutions.

[Pete F.]

Interesting how the low scoring states lean politically
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Interesting how the low scoring states lean politically
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Seems also to be a correlation between low scoring states and which states receive the most government $ back vs what they contribute.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Seems also to be a correlation between low scoring states and which states receive the most government $ back vs what they contribute.

Not significantly true overall, but if it were, then it would seem that government money makes people dumber.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Not significantly true overall, but if it were, then it would seem that government money makes people dumber.

Do you have a chart to show that it is not significantly true overall bc every chart I have seen seems to indicate that the historically right leaning states all receive more back then they pay to the govern. There also seems to be a correlation between educational achievement also.

But to the point before you tried to turn this into a political arguement, it is sad people don't know more about our country. Perhaps bc many states down have civics classes anymore.

[JohnR]

Many of the states that get low Fed have high state taxes, salaries, and tend to spend more. States that receive higher tend to have larger government installations like gov research or large military bases or (ironically, bases that were thrown out of states)

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Do you have a chart to show that it is not significantly true overall bc every chart I have seen seems to indicate that the historically right leaning states all receive more back then they pay to the govern. There also seems to be a correlation between educational achievement also.

I was referring to the chart that JohnR posted.

As far as the states receiving more back than they pay, I consider that a good thing. If all the states did that, the federal government might be forced to cut back on its spending. And maybe the fed would then not need to tax us as much and more money would stay in the states so they wouldn't have to rely on the federal government dole.

But to the point before you tried to turn this into a political arguement,

This is the political forum. And like so much of what affects our civic life in America now, politics is a, or the, key factor. And the Pete F post to which I responded was specifically political. Your stuff about "right leaning" states getting back more than they pay is political.

it is sad people don't know more about our country. Perhaps bc many states down have civics classes anymore.

As I said in the first response to the thread "It's not an accident that citizenship is not an important subject in our Progressive educational institutions."

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Interesting how the low scoring states lean politically
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

In the second highest category (topped only by Vermont the only one in first category) the "Conservative" states dominate. Not a really significant political distribution overall between "right" and "left."

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

In the second highest category (topped only by Vermont the only one in first category) the "Conservative" states dominate. Not a really significant political distribution overall between "right" and "left."

In the lowest two categories, with the exception of New Mexico all voted for Trump 16-1 and in the highest two he only got 6 out of 10.
I suppose the low ones are not really in the conservative club.

You can read data lots of ways to make it say what you want.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You can read data lots of ways to make it say what you want.

I'll be using that in the next thread you start

[PaulS]

Could be. My commute sucks. That is why I work from home a lot.