this is so effed

[scottw]

The Fairfax County Police Department has suspended an officer for detaining and turning the driver in an accident over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement on Saturday in violation of the department’s policy not to assist ICE with civil enforcement.

The driver lacked a Virginia driver’s license, so the officer who responded to the accident ran a Department of Motor Vehicles check and discovered that ICE had issued a civil violation to the individual for failing to appear for a deportation hearing, according to Fairfax County police.

The officer verified the ICE warrant and contacted the ICE agent listed as the point of contact, who came to the scene of the traffic crash. The officer gave the driver a ticket for driving without a license but continued to detain the individual until the ICE agent took over custody.

Fairfax County Police Chief Edwin Roessler lamented the incident and said the officer is being disciplined.

“This is an unfortunate issue where the officer was confused,” the police chief said, according to the Washington Post. “We have trained on this issue a lot. This is the first time we’ve had a lapse in judgment, and the officer is being punished.”

The officer has been relieved of all law-enforcement duties pending an internal investigation.

[Jim in CT]

it really is bonkers. wonder what stance his union will take...
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[spence]

Sounds like the officer needs a refresher.

Now this is effed

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...3nw7S1RsvSEPKM

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Sounds like the officer needs a refresher.

Now this is effed

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...3nw7S1RsvSEPKM

a refresher on what, the notion that we only enforce the laws we like?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

a refresher on what, the notion that we only enforce the laws we like?
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On departmental policy

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

On departmental policy

Again, you're OK then, with police departments deciding which laws they will help enforce, and which they will help people violate? Some day they may decide to ignore laws you happen to like.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Again, you're OK then, with police departments deciding which laws they will help enforce, and which they will help people violate? Some day they may decide to ignore laws you happen to like.

Local PD doesn't enforce federal law Jim.

[Nebe]

He should have just shot the bad hombre. Isn’t that what Cheato suggested?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Nebe

He should have just shot the bad hombre. Isn’t that what Cheato suggested?
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Just in the legs
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[Sea Dangles]

Pete’s a couple French fries short of a happy meal.
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[Sea Dangles]

Officers are just used to cooperating for the good of all. If you get pulled over and they discover a warrant for a serious offense,they may even separate you from your child.🙀
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Officers are just used to cooperating for the good of all. If you get pulled over and they discover a warrant for a serious offense,they may even separate you from your child.��
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if you or I get pulled over for an infraction and it's discovered we have no license, no insurance and there is a warrant out for us because we blew off a court appearance...I bet we don't walk away with just a ticket...and if you do all of those things and you do walk away with just a ticket what are the odds that ticked gets paid?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

if you or I get pulled over for an infraction and it's discovered we have no license, no insurance and there is a warrant out for us because we blew off a court appearance...I bet we don't walk away with just a ticket...and if you do all of those things and you do walk away with just a ticket what are the odds that ticked gets paid?

great point. by what logic do US citizens get punished more harshly than illegal aliens?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

great point. by what logic do US citizens get punished more harshly than illegal aliens?
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By scott's logic.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

great point. by what logic do US citizens get punished more harshly than illegal aliens?
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Are you talking about the cop who was doing his job that is being punished more harshly then illegal aliens?


the road these policies are going will just stop more good people from choosing the profession. It's insane and we get what we deserve if we put up with this crap.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

Are you talking about the cop who was doing his job that is being punished more harshly then illegal aliens?


the road these policies are going will just stop more good people from choosing the profession. It's insane and we get what we deserve if we put up with this crap.

i actually meant that if a legal
citizen fails to show up for a required court date, there aren’t any public law enforcement agencies who are specifically instructed to help them avoid facing consequences. only illegals have that luxury.

if you think that’s awesome, you’re a liberal.

if you think that’s stupid, you’re a conservative.
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[wdmso]

So was the guy picked up by ICE... can anyone answer this? Because Ice tends to issue these (misdemeanor) warrants and expect cities and towns to hold them indefinitely on their dime.. FYI all you law experts , have a warrant issued for non payments of a ticket out of state (misdemeanor) and get pulled over in your town ..lets see if you get held till they come up and get you.. for your un paid ticket..

stop living in your own reality.. Trump hasnt changed or tried to make illegal entry a felonious crime.. change it . issue resolved.

as for the cop regardless of his or our personal feelings dept policys not all are discretionary.. And who knows his work history postive or negative may play a roll in his discipline
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

So was the guy picked up by ICE... can anyone answer this? Because Ice tends to issue these (misdemeanor) warrants and expect cities and towns to hold them indefinitely on their dime..

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read

"The officer verified the ICE warrant and contacted the ICE agent listed as the point of contact, who came to the scene of the traffic crash. The officer gave the driver a ticket for driving without a license but continued to detain the individual until the ICE agent took over custody."

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

FYI all you law experts , have a warrant issued for non payments of a ticket out of state (misdemeanor) and get pulled over in your town ..lets see if you get held till they come up and get you.. for your un paid ticket..

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I was in Maine with a friend who was driving and he was pulled over. There was a warrant for him because he'd not shown up in court for a speeding ticket that he'd gotten on his motorcycle. They put the cuffs on him and took him straight to jail and he was a citizen with a valid license, insurance and registration..

Technically if you are here illegally and they are trying to deport you but you are running from the law and avoiding the process...it's not really "your town"..if you are a citizen and don't pay a speeding ticket and you have a license, insurance, registration.....they know where to find you