poaching and the striper cup

[Bigcat]

Rumor has it one of the big guns was busted last night for poaching?

[likwid]

Originally Posted by Bigcat

Rumor has it one of the big guns was busted last night for poaching?

oops!

[striprman]

scuppers ?

[NEXT2NUN]

http://www.stripersonline.com/surfta...d.php?t=493674

[UserRemoved1]

rut rooooo

[Skitterpop]

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[JoeP]

Really nice. Poaching, cheating, whatever - the guy is now a fraud in my book. I don't care how big the fish he caught were.

There should be a legal way to ban guys like that from even touching a rod & reel again.

I hate poachers!!

[kippy]

Anyone know if he will be dq'd from the tournament?

[striprman]

Keel haul him and hang him from the mizzen topgallant mast.

[spence]

Let me get this straight.

A very large corporate sponsored competition with big prizes and little oversight...

SOMEONE IS CAUGHT CHEATING

And people are suprised?

-spence

[Mike P]

Tell me how his cheating in any way increased his chances of winning a major prize. Unless you consider a trophy as a major prize.

There are no cash prizes, and the grand prizes are going to be awarded by a luck-of-the-draw raffle at the closing beer fest.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Mike P

Tell me how his cheating in any way increased his chances of winning a major prize.

• Monthly Winners (5) -Heaviest Striper Each Month
Will be eligible to win the Grand Prize 4 x 4

-spence

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by spence

• Monthly Winners (5) -Heaviest Striper Each Month
Will be eligible to win the Grand Prize 4 x 4

-spence

so are you speculating that he may have higraded or something with those 50's since he seems to have been caught poaching the night before comm season?
it's up the OTW to determine that kind of thing I would imagine.

but you are correct, winning as many of the monthly's as you can will increase your chances at the 4x4

The contest should disqualify dishonest people IMO but like I said, it's up the OTW I'd imagine.

[Roger]

Originally Posted by Mike P

Tell me how his cheating in any way increased his chances of winning a major prize. Unless you consider a trophy as a major prize.

Unfortunately, for many people the recognition is more important than cash or prizes. Ego is a powerful motivator. It'd be nice if it were not that way, but it is what it is.

Like I've written before, tournaments bring out the worst in people. I've seen people do things that I would not have believed if I had not been there - for no money. I believe it's naive to think that a poacher would not have cheated in the competition by culling, fishing outside the 3 mi limit, etc.

[BigFish]

Major Jack A$$ is more like it! Nice that a scumbag has been outed!

[Mr. Sandman]

Originally Posted by Mike P

Tell me how his cheating in any way increased his chances of winning a major prize. Unless you consider a trophy as a major prize.

There are no cash prizes, and the grand prizes are going to be awarded by a luck-of-the-draw raffle at the closing beer fest.

You tell me, how can you award "angler of the year" and probably some other awards to a convicted poacher ?

[Rockport24]

I think based on the response in this thread alone, if this proves to be true, OTW better ban him or they won't have a contest anymore...
I, for one, would never participate again and probably cancel my subscription if they let this slide. But I am sure they will do the right thing.

[Water Treater]

Speaking of poaching, there are several private vessels in my homeport of Green Harbor (Marshfield, MA) who for the past few weeks have been targeting and keeping large striped bass caught in the EEZ Zone (Stellwagen Bank) and bragging about it. Enforcement of fishery regulations appears to be non-existent.

[JoeP]

Originally Posted by spence

Let me get this straight.

A very large corporate sponsored competition with big prizes and little oversight...

SOMEONE IS CAUGHT CHEATING

And people are suprised?

-spence

No surprise - that's part of the problem with this tourney to begin with. I'm sure there is other cheating going on.

[reelecstasy]

See ya, I have no respect for cheaters. Without a doubt he should be DQ

[JohnR]

No real suprise this has happened if it is in fact truth - which will come out in due course.

OTW should look into this and when the details are in, do the right thing. So far I think they have been doing the right thing when concerns are brought to them, the rules for example.

Curious to see how this plays out...

[ProfessorM]

Should take his license for a few years, at the least, to teach him and anyone else a lesson. A citation, give me a break. I'm sure this is the first time he ever did it. There called rules for a reason. Not fair to the majority who follow them. I know plenty do it and will continue too until the know there is a penalty. And still some will continue. You got to keep the honest people honest. As far as the OTW thing if they allow this guy to continue in their tournament and he is guilty of this charge than they are wrong in my book. I am sure they will do the right thing to his standings in the tourney. P.

[vineyardblues]

Ya what Paul said ........................geeszzzz

ps. and I still like #^&#^&#^&#^& Hathaway....more to that story but thats for another day
VB

[Skitterpop]

I really have caught numerous Striped Bass in the 30 to 50 lb range since entering the contest but have been too humble and shy to admit so or enter them


Major #^&#^&#^&#^&

[Swimmer]

This is the scenario that Mr. Sandman brought up the other day in another post. Catch your two fish allowed under state law an continue fishing and culling using the legal commercial license to smoke us all. I think that no fish should be allowed to be weighed in for the OTW tourney while the commercial season is open.

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by Swimmer

I think that no fish should be allowed to be weighed in for the OTW tourney while the commercial season is open.

That would work for a Mass-only tournament. But the OTW stretches from Maine to New Jersey. Would it be fair to close it for them?

I know this is a pipe dream, but what Mass really ought to consider is a commercial slot limit, like NY's. I think the NY commercial slot is 26" to 34", or maybe 36".

And maybe allocate tags among the existing license holders and limit new licensees. You get allocated tags based on what you reported on your annual catch report, and have to tag every fish when it's landed. DMF comes aboard, no tags, that automatically becomes a rec fish and if there are more than 2 per man, you're screwed. Use up your tags, you're done for the season. That's how NY operates. If people overstate their catches to get more tags, then the tax folks can compare what they reported on their catch reports against what was reported on their state tax return. And it will stop guys from low balling their catches.

[Gloucester2]

This guy should do the right thing and ASK to be removed from the Tournament for the good of all participants, including himself.

Sometimes ya just gotta admit ya made a mistake and take your lumps like a man.

[ProfessorM]

Big deal the guy caught a 58 lber. That means he is a great fisherman and he can do what ever the heck he wants. I don't really care if he was catching 16 lb fish he was caught breaking the rules. Just because it was a large fish we should be in awe of the guy. As far as lining my pockets I pay for my license and follow the rules and until that changes that is all that counts. Besides I am far from lining my pockets. P.

[Jenn]

one of the reasons I have grown sour on fishing tournaments over the last few years is because of cheating. The day I saw a 5 pound largemouth weighed in and "released" was a day I cant get out of my mind when I think of tournaments. The 5 pounder was "released" right into the livewell down at the docks when they thought no one was looking

[majyaday]

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