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Old 04-17-2007, 04:08 PM   #1
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proper way to use a Van Staal

Here is a video of a Van Staal rep showing the proper way to use the manual pickup. Note that he say's, "move the line roller to the 8 o'clock position."

Well, maybe I'm a "nit picker" but that roller is not at 8 o'clock. Viewing from butt to tip, that would be the 10 o'clock, or from tip to butt would be the 2 o'clock.

The only way to make that 8 o'clock would be if you held the reel as a conventional (top of the rod).

Oh well, he got everything else right.


Three-fourths of the Earth's surface is water, and one-fourth is land. It is quite clear that the good Lord intended us to spend triple the amount of time fishing as taking care of the lawn.
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:13 PM   #2
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its also on the salwater edge website
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:30 PM   #3
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Very cool use of a free source.
How long till there's some shots of the moon on there..

On the manual bail I learned a neat trick I cannot wait to try next season..When fishing a needle fish to keep tension on the line so to prevent wind knots.Stick ur pointer finger out an just let the line tick ur fingernail as it winds onto the spool.I was told it just puts enough tension on the line to wrap it tight enough to prevent the blow-ups.
Seems like it might work anyone else do this..

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Old 04-17-2007, 04:40 PM   #4
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Very cool use of a free source.
How long till there's some shots of the moon on there..

On the manual bail I learned a neat trick I cannot wait to try next season..When fishing a needle fish to keep tension on the line so to prevent wind knots.Stick ur pointer finger out an just let the line tick ur fingernail as it winds onto the spool.I was told it just puts enough tension on the line to wrap it tight enough to prevent the blow-ups.
Seems like it might work anyone else do this..

great, now I need to get a manicure to fish with NIB because he'll be looking @ my fingernails
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:42 PM   #5
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no this is the proper way:





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Old 04-17-2007, 05:08 PM   #6
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Looks like Rob got the better rock..

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Old 04-18-2007, 05:56 PM   #7
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On the manual bail I learned a neat trick I cannot wait to try next season..When fishing a needle fish to keep tension on the line so to prevent wind knots.Stick ur pointer finger out an just let the line tick ur fingernail as it winds onto the spool.I was told it just puts enough tension on the line to wrap it tight enough to prevent the blow-ups.
Seems like it might work anyone else do this..
I think I usually do this without thinking about it. It's just where my fingers end up. I hate to say something about it and have it bite me in the ass all season long, but I almost never get wind knots or tangles and it might be why.
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:30 PM   #8
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From the position he's looking from, with the reel foot at 6:00, the roller does look to be at 8:00.
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:38 PM   #9
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From the position he's looking from, with the reel foot at 6:00, the roller does look to be at 8:00.
I guess I see the reel foot as being at 12 o'clock (being at the top and not the bottom (which would be 6 o'clock)). Just a matter of perception I guess.

Three-fourths of the Earth's surface is water, and one-fourth is land. It is quite clear that the good Lord intended us to spend triple the amount of time fishing as taking care of the lawn.
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I guess I see the reel foot as being at 12 o'clock (being at the top and not the bottom (which would be 6 o'clock)). Just a matter of perception I guess.
I'm just used to looking at things in an upside down sort of way.
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Old 04-17-2007, 08:50 PM   #11
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i know that rock.. I think. somewhere in gansett?
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:08 PM   #12
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Think low tide, ALL the way out, off a "rockpile" in Newport.

Next stop Block Island...
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:25 PM   #13
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It’s a simple thing – really. Handle down spool out. In Greg’s video his handle is up a little too high for my liking. When the handle is all they down the spool is all the way out, and you have less of a chance of your handle turning all the way around a few times and having your roller catch the line. Hand placement does not matter, as long as your index finger is about even with the spool. It should not be too high or too low. I have small hands and put four fingers above the stem when casting. I would not worry about where the roller is. When placing it from the spool to roller keep the line between the roller and spool tight and you will have no problems. Handle down spool out is also true for the 706z. If your handle is down, but your spool is in, try putting a couple of washes in the handle, until you have handle down spool out. It is very important, especially in a crosswind. NIB—YEP the “ finger trick” will save you much hard ache.

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Old 04-18-2007, 09:27 PM   #14
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I think the video is a great addition. I don't understand how anyone could take any offense to it.

Wait, did someone mention Van Staal?...


Here is another video of someone using a manual Van Staal.... Another method..


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I think the video is a great addition. I don't understand how anyone could take any offense to it.

Wait, did someone mention Van Staal?...


Here is another video of someone using a manual Van Staal.... Another method..

What a googan. What kind of bailless reel technique was that?
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Old 04-19-2007, 12:14 AM   #16
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What a googan. What kind of bailless reel technique was that?
No kidding, I had to shut it off, I couldn't look past the technique & equipment he was using long enough to see the nice bass @ the end of his line.

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Here is a video of a Van Staal rep showing the proper way to use the manual pickup. Note that he say's, "move the line roller to the 8 o'clock position."

Well, maybe I'm a "nit picker" but that roller is not at 8 o'clock. Viewing from butt to tip, that would be the 10 o'clock, or from tip to butt would be the 2 o'clock.

The only way to make that 8 o'clock would be if you held the reel as a conventional (top of the rod).

Oh well, he got everything else right.

The best way to use a VanStal is to buy it on a classified thread and sell it immediatly for a. more money and b. buy two less expensive reels without the hype.

Did I say Vanstals suck? Yep your absolutely right I did!

Why even try.........
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:52 AM   #18
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Pete,

Great video, top notch stuff as usual
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