Fuel costs

[Mr. Sandman]

This is the THIRD TIME I have seen these two types of headlines on the SAME PAGE of the news on the same day...

Crude keeps falling and pump prices rise...it is really starting to piss me off.


Oil Prices Continue Slide AP


Gas Prices: A Costly Spring for Drivers
Fuel prices are rising higher well before the summer driving season, reaching a record high for April. Will pain at the pump worsen down the road?


Its time we tap our domestic resources and put some economic pressure on the rest of the world We stop buying from them you watch the price drop!
...WHILE AT THE SAME TIME..build more domestic refineries AND invest in next generation atomic plants. I am convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is our clean long term solution. For vehicles we need improved battery/fuel cell technology and it is coming. But in the meantime I want gas below 2 bucks a gallon fachristsakes.

[GattaFish]

That's because there is plenty of oil,,,,, Always has been,,, Sh$t you can still get oil at $40 a barrel,,,, It is just bitter,,, not the sweet stuff that needs (key words) Less refining,,,

It all has to do with the refineries..... That's where the shortage is,,,, and it is always a reason for the oil companies to raise gas prices,,,,, So there is no incentive to build a new refinery when you can still meet demand and make more money doing it....

[MAC]

Originally Posted by GattaFish

That's because there is plenty of oil,,,,, Always has been,,, Sh$t you can still get oil at $40 a barrel,,,, It is just bitter,,, not the sweet stuff that needs (key words) Less refining,,,

It all has to do with the refineries..... That's where the shortage is,,,, and it is always a reason for the oil companies to raise gas prices,,,,, So there is no incentive to build a new refinery when you can still meet demand and make more money doing it....

That is how I see it. If company A processes x number of barrels and continues to make a profit (a substantial one at that) with a set # of refineries, why would they open up or bring back on line more? Sure they could process more and get their costs down. But is it really in their best interests? Their biggest concern is the bottom line and if they make the same net profit by refining more (cumulative) , why would they bother. More refineries means more people working for them and the greater chance for something to cost them money. ie; mechanical failures,potential injuries and lawsuits and all the other expenses associated.

Sure it would make the general population happier. But then again, I don't believe they give 2 craps about us. Their biggest concern is about the bottom line. We are becoming a society of "the Haves", and "Have Nots". Middle class America is slowly heading towards non existence and there isn't anything anyone can do about it.

I would bet 40 or so years ago the majority of homes had stay at home moms. That isn't the case today. Not many households can get by on a single "bread winner".

[Swimmer]

Fuel costs suck!

[Rockfish9]

I'm sure now they will double this week and blame it on the storm!

[Raven]

the price will drop when we get into warmer weather....
fuel oil prices will fall... creating a landslide....

[BigFish]

Gas prices will rise thru July 4th as they always do.....so hold onto your hat!!

[Jenn]

food for thought....

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/gas1.html

[taJon]

how does 5.12 a gallon sound. Thats what I paid in Lauderdale today...........................for jetA

[GattaFish]

Originally Posted by taJon

how does 5.12 a gallon sound. Thats what I paid in Lauderdale today...........................for jetA

Try signature in Detroit City... 6.24 a gal for Jet A ,,, that was a while ago,,,,,, Nothing like only getting 2000 gallons,,,,, Love those AMEX points,,,,,

[ProfessorM]

Looks like I will using the smaller tin boat a lot this year, again.

[ThrowingTimber]

46 n change to fill my 4 cyl tacoma.


As an aside. Does anyone else feel that we should be paying twenty-five cents a gallon for gas with what our guys and gals are doing over there in the sandbox??

[Mr. Sandman]

I pay 90 to fill up the Yukon XL but I don't drive very far so it last a good 6 weeks. The boat is my problem... That is a $400+ bill each fill up.

[Raven]

things will change for the better soon.

[labrax]

$40 to get just over a 1/2 tank this evening for an Expedition. That would have filled the VW from fumes, but that car was making up the $$ difference in repair bills....

Yeah, there is no incentive for the companies making historic profits per fiscal quarter to do anything different. We keep buying it, so they will keep the supply at a level where they can get the most for it. It will be $3.30 - $3.50 by the July 4th holiday.

It is irritating to see that the prices go down per barrel and the prices at the pump go up. I am in my late thirties, but it does seem that in the past few years - the price is always going up at the slightest perceived political problem, or excuse. I literally heard that CA was experiencing a fuel issue and a big spike in prices about 1.5 months ago - because a raccoon had gotten in and shorted out their electrical power generation capability and that brought two refineries down for two days, or rather reduced their capabilities for two days. Iran or Korea's nuclear programs, increased demand during warmer months, Mercury in retrograde, etc., etc., etc.

In my naive and unsophisticated perspective it is the commodity markets and investors that are driving this - whatever they can get away with they will - because they can....

[UserRemoved1]

Interesting article today...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=afOlUzd30YOo

$5.00 a gallon by June you watch. %$%$%$%$ERS

[Raven]

there has not been one comment about building any more refineries in this country.... what a joke...

[Saltheart]

I think when we get a new democrat for president , they will lower prices. About 1 year later , The Bush oil gang will be charged with conspiracy for minipulating prices along with tons of oil company big wigs.

Of course i could be wrong. the new pres may also own oil stocks so who knows????

[Mike P]

One of the local stations in town actually went DOWN two cents over the weekend

Saw the funniest thing yesterday. We went up to Pawtucket to visit my mom and sister, and on the way we had to make a stop at the CVS on the corner of Newman and Central Aves in Seekonk. While I was waiting for my wife to get what she needed, I noticed that the Hess station across the street had yellow crime scene tape wrapped around the pump islands. Wassup? Robbery? Shooting? Someone accidently crashed a pump resulting in damage and maybe a leak? Nope. They just roped off the pumps in order to raise the price 4 cents As we were leaving, a kid was wrapping up and throwing away the tape, and carrying a ladder out to change the prices on the sign.

I wonder how many $50 sales they sacrificed to people who drove to the Valero station down Newman Ave in order to avoid losing 80 cents each on a couple of fillups

[UserRemoved1]

local station went down 1c today also.

[Raven]

the one in Upton did the same...

advertising 5 cents off special

and they went down just a penny

thats wrong.... and illegal

[Thom]

Not a auto but here at work we are good for 40,000 and 50,000 gals of oil per week have the tanker truck here dropping off a load 6 days a week seven if they are coming out of CT. Highest amount of I have seen burned 6500 gals in a 24 hrs at about 1.59 a gallon. One of the reason why College is so costly. ThomT

[Bishop169]

The biggest issue no one is talking about is the lateral effect of the fuel rise…
If the American people are being sucked dry at the pump this will ultimately affect there behaviors and effect allot of businesses that depend on travelers and tourism.
i.e. If I spend $90 for one fill up I’m not driving up to Burlington VT to go fishing for the weekend rather stay local… so all the business’s I would have visited aren’t getting my money.. Sorry corn guy at the gorge sorry bait shops sorry roadside motel Sorry greasy road side dinners … I have to fill my tank…….

Besides needing a truck to work people are going to be more tempted to buy smaller economical cars.. some automotive company truly depend on consumers to purchase there big fun trucks… but who wants to spend a $100 at the pumps at every fill up

So in turn shoot me flame me if you want but I’m going to say it Bush needs to get off his A$$ and do something before this subtle change starts costing people jobs and closing more mom and pop’s little place’s… maybe this could be the one thing he could do to release the title I put on him as worse president we ever saw…

[Raven]

Originally Posted by Bishop169

Bush needs to get off his A$$ and do something before this subtle change starts costing people jobs and closing more mom and pop’s little place’s… maybe this could be the one thing he could do....

bush???
he can't because the oil companies are running the country and he works for them -> not US.

[UserRemoved1]

Gas station owner told to raise prices

2 hours, 24 minutes ago

MERRILL, Wis. - A service station that offered discounted gas to senior citizens and people supporting youth sports has been ordered by the state to raise its prices.
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Center City BP owner Raj Bhandari has been offering senior citizens a 2 cent per gallon price break and discount cards that let sports boosters pay 3 cents less per gallon.

But the state
Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection says those deals violate Wisconsin's Unfair Sales Act, which requires stations to sell gas for about 9.2 percent more than the wholesale price.

Bhandari said he received a letter from the state auditor last month saying the state would sue him if he did not raise his prices. The state could penalize him for each discounted gallon he sold, with the fine determined by a judge.

Bhandari, who bought the station a year ago, said he worries customers will think he stopped the discounts because he wants to make more money. About 10 percent of his customers had used the discount cards.

Dale Van Camp said he bought a $50 card to support the local youth hockey program. It would have saved him about $100 per year on gas, he said.

[Raven]

F their Cheese.

[UserRemoved1]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...NGUKPOGKJ1.DTL


GOOD for HIM. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE. The local Shell guy told me that his gas price (independent) is .34 a gallon more than what the guy 3 miles down the road pays (Shell owned station)

JERKS

[UserRemoved1]

http://www.miamiherald.com/418/story/101833.html

[Raven]

what he said was right on...