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01-27-2009, 01:06 PM
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ball bit for poppers
What kind of ball bit do you use to make these? Never did this before and was wondering what the right tool and process is.
thanks
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01-27-2009, 01:28 PM
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Covered in Sawdust
Join Date: Jan 2008
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some use ball rasps. I use a Frued Round Nose router bit...expensive though. I haven't been able to find a big ball rasp for big poppers.
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01-27-2009, 01:32 PM
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look for kutzall sphere burr
they're on ebay from time to time, maybe amazon too. Thats what i use, there are many different methods though. Someone else ground down a spade bit to cut them, or like Krinkle you can use a cove router bit with the guide bearing removed.
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01-27-2009, 01:55 PM
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Covered in Sawdust
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Quote:
Originally Posted by go4broke44
look for kutzall sphere burr
they're on ebay from time to time, maybe amazon too. Thats what i use, there are many different methods though. Someone else ground down a spade bit to cut them, or like Krinkle you can use a cove router bit with the guide bearing removed.
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It's actually not a cove bit. It's a round nose bit. here's a website to look at.
http://www.freudtools.com/p-180-round-nose-bits.aspx
I haven't heard of the kutzall burr...i'll have to check it out. |
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01-27-2009, 04:08 PM
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do you have a fence or something set up so that bit doesn't wander? I would think the chance of it walking off the end of the lure, and into your hand would be high!  |
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01-27-2009, 08:40 PM
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Covered in Sawdust
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Quote:
Originally Posted by go4broke44
do you have a fence or something set up so that bit doesn't wander? I would think the chance of it walking off the end of the lure, and into your hand would be high! |
I start it with a same size forstner bit so it doesn't wander. No knuckle meat....YET  |
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01-27-2009, 09:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by go4broke44
do you have a fence or something set up so that bit doesn't wander? I would think the chance of it walking off the end of the lure, and into your hand would be high! |
If you use the router bit with the bearing on the end, take the allen screw and bearing off. The stub will center the bit in the nose wire hole. Just gotta be careful no matter what tool is spinning. |
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01-27-2009, 10:00 PM
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Jim, I use a spherical burr from Foredom. I go the coarse ball and let me tell this thing is no joke. I hold the popper perpendicular to the ball while it in the drill press. Very unforgiving. If your not careful, your popper face will be 2" deep.
Use a 1/2 drill bit first then use the burr to finsh.
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01-27-2009, 04:13 PM
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Nothing like looking down and seeing Fresh Knuckle Meat all over the tool....
I use one of Salty's balls  to cup my Popper Mouths......works Great |
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01-27-2009, 05:10 PM
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I use the reground spade and would even with a ball bit. It is a way better cutting edge that won't load up like a ball bit, regrind the point so it does'nt cut and will follow the thru hole.
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01-28-2009, 09:12 AM
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I have the green one pictured here, kutzall extreme 1"
No problems with sawdust loading up the ball at all, maybe because the green is the most coarse one. I use the same method as smac, except I don't start the hole at all, just go right to it.
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01-28-2009, 09:57 AM
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http://easyburs.com/
Great product......Fair pricing.
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01-30-2009, 09:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by go4broke44
I have the green one pictured here, kutzall extreme 1"
No problems with sawdust loading up the ball at all, maybe because the green is the most coarse one. I use the same method as smac, except I don't start the hole at all, just go right to it.
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Thats exactly what I use and the way I use it, jut got for it, no pre cupping.... quick and efficient... |
A good run is better than a bad stand!
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01-30-2009, 10:14 AM
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I would think it would wander...do you have a vise on your drill press?
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01-30-2009, 12:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman
I would think it would wander...do you have a vise on your drill press?
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The green is so aggressive that it only takes a light touch to get it to work, hardly any pressure is needed to to get the job done... |
A good run is better than a bad stand!
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01-28-2009, 10:17 AM
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Those are very similar to what I use....
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01-29-2009, 02:39 PM
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Location: NJ Shore
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i use the router bits minus the guide bearing method. just drill a pilot hole 1st that is big enough or they can walk a bit. then i just sand a lot. its a bit crude but does work. and yes i have had the bits bite into my hand so put the plug in a vise or something.
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01-30-2009, 01:18 PM
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Uncle Remus
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and where do you purchase such a tool Joe? I need one. Thanks
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01-30-2009, 03:38 PM
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01-30-2009, 06:21 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
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i just ordered one on e bay for 12 bucks including shipping. 1 inch size. Kutzall
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01-31-2009, 09:18 AM
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What do you finish with? The silver Kutzall I have looks like I cupped the plug with a chainsaw.  |
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01-31-2009, 11:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Charleston
What do you finish with? The silver Kutzall I have looks like I cupped the plug with a chainsaw. |
A light touch using the gold or you could again with (silver) a light touch rotate the plug on the burr.
If you notice a high cutter thats putting in a line file the offending "burr" down a little. Some of these burrs need tuning but well worth the small effort. |
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