Dogs on cape beaches? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

JFigliuolo · 04-22-2009, 09:37 AM

What are the rules regarding dogs on beaches and how strictly are they enforced... looking to take the pooch w/us for a week in June... Either sagamore or dennis area.

JohnnyD · 04-22-2009, 10:17 AM

The rules differ depending on the beach.

On any of the beaches infested with plovers, dogs must be on a leash 6' or shorter - no retractable leashes.

With regards to the other beaches, a google search brought this site up.
http://www.petfriendlytravel.com/?pa...#Massachusetts

I'm not positive the accuracy of it. I think you may be SOL for the sag/dennis area.

BasicPatrick · 04-22-2009, 10:20 AM

These days plan on a short leash...period

Swimmer · 04-22-2009, 10:38 AM

Every town has a leash law................sometimes I think my wife and I are the only ones who follow that particular rule.

CaptMike · 04-22-2009, 10:51 AM

I'm so sick of the dog nonsense on cape beaches. In chatham we can't have them on hardings or lighthouse beach at all from april through september. I know piping plovers are important (to someone) and whatnot just why not short leashes or soemthing instead istead of banning them all together, it drives me nuts!

maddmatt · 04-22-2009, 11:27 AM

i know coast guard beach in eastham is no dogs allowed, anytime punishable by death. i don't know about the other nps (nazi park service) beaches. probably the same. soon humans will be banned as well. except for the guards, their vehicles, park service biologists and their vehicles, usf&w and their vehicles, arts dune tours and their vehicles (gov vehicles have special tires that don't hit birds or their eggs) and the audubon (they like to walk)........soon they will have what they want, a private bird sanctuary that runs the length of the cape.

Mike P · 04-22-2009, 01:16 PM

Bourne prohibits dogs on their beaches (including the Sagamore beaches) between May 1 and Oct. 15.

We have a leash law, but no one has ever hassled me for letting my dogs run loose on Sagamore Beach in the offseason.

I would say that you could probably get away with letting your dog run loose in the very early morning or late evening, even in-season. I think the worst think our DNR officers would do is tell you to leash it.

JFigliuolo · 04-22-2009, 01:23 PM

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Bourne prohibits dogs on their beaches (including the Sagamore beaches) between May 1 and Oct. 15.

We have a leash law, but no one has ever hassled me for letting my dogs run loose on Sagamore Beach in the offseason.

I would say that you could probably get away with letting your dog run loose in the very early morning or late evening, even in-season. I think the worst think our DNR officers would do is tell you to leash it.

Yeah, I was hoping to be able to walk her on the beach early mornings/late in the evening. Almost definitely leashed... My wife is a leash nazi...

Raven · 04-22-2009, 02:47 PM

to think that dogs are not allowed to run free anywhere

it's like hobbling all the wild horses

birds -> clip their wings -> No more flying for you

fish - put them in a freakin barrel

Bunch of stupid rules

BasicPatrick · 04-23-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptMike

I'm so sick of the dog nonsense on cape beaches. In chatham we can't have them on hardings or lighthouse beach at all from april through september. I know piping plovers are important (to someone) and whatnot just why not short leashes or soemthing instead istead of banning them all together, it drives me nuts!

Mike...with no bs or sarcasm intended...there were like a dozen people that showed up when the town had the hearing about bannning the dogs from Hardings...the pro doggie people were outnumbered something like ten to one at the hearing...I hat to say it but democracy worked that day...the majority, and that evenign it was a vast majority won out....still sucks though

CaptMike · 04-23-2009, 07:36 AM

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Mike...with no bs or sarcasm intended...there were like a dozen people that showed up when the town had the hearing about bannning the dogs from Hardings...the pro doggie people were outnumbered something like ten to one at the hearing...I hat to say it but democracy worked that day...the majority, and that evenign it was a vast majority won out....still sucks though

I'm sure they were in the majority. I work in politics and spend a lot of time setting up and attending hearings. For very small issues like this it's typically the most extreme people who come out in numbers and make the most noise. If it were something that affected a lot more people or something that drastically affected people we usually see a much different demographic. Either way I'm sick of these leash laws nonsense.

CaptMike · 04-23-2009, 08:40 AM

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I'm sure they were in the majority. I work in politics and spend a lot of time setting up and attending hearings. For very small issues like this it's typically the most extreme people who come out in numbers and make the most noise. If it were something that affected a lot more people or something that drastically affected people we usually see a much different demographic. Either way I'm sick of these leash laws nonsense.

I didn't mean to sound condescending in that post this issue just frustrates me. I support almost all conservation efforts especially on the cape but I can't believe that dogs on 6 foot leashes are going to wipe out the piping plover populations

JohnnyD · 04-23-2009, 10:24 AM

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I didn't mean to sound condescending in that post this issue just frustrates me. I support almost all conservation efforts especially on the cape but I can't believe that dogs on 6 foot leashes are going to wipe out the piping plover populations

People are ridiculous when it comes to these damn birds.

The Dad Fisherman · 04-23-2009, 10:40 AM

I'm betting it isn't just a plover issue...its also a Dog Crap issue.

Summer time a lot of people spend the day at the beach and towns want there beaches clean for the Touristas......

JFigliuolo · 04-23-2009, 10:49 AM

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I'm betting it isn't just a plover issue...its also a Dog Crap issue.

Summer time a lot of people spend the day at the beach and towns want there beaches clean for the Touristas......

Yeah, only takes a few bad apples...

Swimmer · 04-24-2009, 10:40 AM

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I'm betting it isn't just a plover issue...its also a Dog Crap issue.

Summer time a lot of people spend the day at the beach and towns want there beaches clean for the Touristas......

Bingo.................Dogs are restricted and/or not allowed because people walking in bare feet at the beach are sick of walking in doggy poo. Many more people are picking it up than used to, which is awesome, but it could still be improved upon.

JohnnyD · 04-23-2009, 01:48 PM

Damn Jimmy. I've seen similar situations like yours happen. All the time, people are walking their dogs without a leash - the problem arises when the dogs are not trained.

My mum has 4 dogs. I know that 2 of them can be taken anywhere without a leash because they are extremely well trained. "Hey!" is all it takes and they stop in their tracks. It's a completely different story on the other two (they were adopted as adult dogs). It's tough enough keeping those two under control with a leash.

On the beaches in the off season is one thing, but in a populated area with little kids, letting a dog run wild is irresponsible.

I'm sorry your kids had such a bad experience. Experiences like that at a young age can stick for a long time.

GoFish · 04-23-2009, 06:18 PM

Recent editorial in the BI Times re keeping dogs leashed suggested that we think of all beaches as "wildlife first" areas. They'll be banning us and the dogs from the beach soon.

Raven · 04-24-2009, 04:55 AM

well they will have a fight on their hands that they will not win

Mike P · 04-24-2009, 10:04 AM

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well they will have a fight on their hands that they will not win

Really? I wouldn't bet against them.

fishbones · 05-12-2009, 11:26 AM

Try the Outer Reach Resort.

http://www.outerreachresort.com/index.html

luds · 05-12-2009, 12:07 PM

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Try the Outer Reach Resort.

http://www.outerreachresort.com/index.html

That place gets some tough reviews. I need somewhere that will only allow my dog. Nobody else's. LOL. Have to admit I'm a little sceived (spelling?) out about sleeping in a place that has had dog after dog.

fishbones · 05-12-2009, 12:20 PM

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That place gets some tough reviews. I need somewhere that will only allow my dog. Nobody else's. LOL. Have to admit I'm a little sceived (spelling?) out about sleeping in a place that has had dog after dog.

I've never stayed there myself. I'm not a pet owner, but my cousin and his wife stayed there with 2 big dogs and said it was decent. Of course his bed at home is covered in dog hair, so his standards may be a little lower than some people. I think you might have a tough time if you're set on Truro. There are places in Hyannis and P-Town that allow dogs that might be a little more upscale.

Have you thought about dressing your dog up as a little kid and sneaking it in?

luds · 05-12-2009, 12:41 PM

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Have you thought about dressing your dog up as a little kid and sneaking it in?

That's a good idea.

I would definitely rather pay more for a place to stay than for doggie day care.

JFigliuolo · 05-12-2009, 12:44 PM

I've found the more expensive places that allow dogs are GENERALLY very clean. The high price tends to keep out the rif-raf.

Also, I'd rather sleep (SLEEP! you perverts) with most the dogs I've seen rather than some of their owners...