Dogs on cape beaches?

[CaptMike]

I'm so sick of the dog nonsense on cape beaches. In chatham we can't have them on hardings or lighthouse beach at all from april through september. I know piping plovers are important (to someone) and whatnot just why not short leashes or soemthing instead istead of banning them all together, it drives me nuts!

[maddmatt]

i know coast guard beach in eastham is no dogs allowed, anytime punishable by death. i don't know about the other nps (nazi park service) beaches. probably the same. soon humans will be banned as well. except for the guards, their vehicles, park service biologists and their vehicles, usf&w and their vehicles, arts dune tours and their vehicles (gov vehicles have special tires that don't hit birds or their eggs) and the audubon (they like to walk)........soon they will have what they want, a private bird sanctuary that runs the length of the cape.

[Mike P]

Bourne prohibits dogs on their beaches (including the Sagamore beaches) between May 1 and Oct. 15.

We have a leash law, but no one has ever hassled me for letting my dogs run loose on Sagamore Beach in the offseason.

I would say that you could probably get away with letting your dog run loose in the very early morning or late evening, even in-season. I think the worst think our DNR officers would do is tell you to leash it.

[JFigliuolo]

Originally Posted by Mike P

Bourne prohibits dogs on their beaches (including the Sagamore beaches) between May 1 and Oct. 15.

We have a leash law, but no one has ever hassled me for letting my dogs run loose on Sagamore Beach in the offseason.

I would say that you could probably get away with letting your dog run loose in the very early morning or late evening, even in-season. I think the worst think our DNR officers would do is tell you to leash it.

Yeah, I was hoping to be able to walk her on the beach early mornings/late in the evening. Almost definitely leashed... My wife is a leash nazi...

[Raven]

to think that dogs are not allowed to run free anywhere

it's like hobbling all the wild horses

birds -> clip their wings -> No more flying for you

fish - put them in a freakin barrel

Bunch of stupid rules

[Clogston29]

Originally Posted by Raven

to think that dogs are not allowed to run free anywhere

there's a dcr park near my house that dog's don't have to be leashed at, accept near the parking area. miles of trails through the woods. my dog loves it. the dogs all love when they see each other out there.

[Swimmer]

There is a no leash park in Hingham. One of my coworkers has been trying to get me to bring the pup there.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Raven

to think that dogs are not allowed to run free anywhere

it's like hobbling all the wild horses

birds -> clip their wings -> No more flying for you

fish - put them in a freakin barrel

Bunch of stupid rules

depends on your perspective. Here is a true story,
2 years ago, a nice spring day, I take my kids, 3 and 5 at the time, along with my wife to a little pond down the road for a little freshwater fishing. I dug up some worms. wife packed a lunch, it was going to be a nice relaxing morning lazing in the sun catching sunfish. After about 1 hour or so, a dog, some large spaniel type, comes flying around us. It was one of those super jumpy dogs, knocking everything and jumping on my kids. My kids were clamoring up my waist screaming, they were terrifyied. I chased the dog away and we wacthed it do the same to another family. This continued for close to 1/2 hour. My kids were miserable and just watched the dog in the distance, he came back to spread his joy again. It takes alot to get me po'd but I was ready to truly kill the animal. An old couple, late 70s, started to approach and it became obvious it was their dogs, I went up to them, fuming and told them they are lucky I didnt break the dogs neck and throw it into the water. The guys said he didnt blame me and the apologized. We left and my kids still talk about it today. Our nice day endined up s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g. Long story, my point that dogs are very intimidating to little kids, we've had many run up to us on beaches and my kids freak. I like dogs but I was pulled off my bike by a german shepard when I was 12 delivering papers, had to get stitches, so I realize they can cause damage. just another perspective

[Raven]

i hear ya Jimmy

but some people actually train their dogs!

i leash train my dogs at eight weeks old or 6 weeks old
depending on when i get the pup...for two months straight

they don't do what i say- when i say it- i make them do it...
there's no maybe i'll do it... because what ever you let them do becomes a habit.

it's snap your fingers and they do what you ask
with allot of praise and reward for their obedience after wards

no ifs, ands, or buts... and it's for their own darn good...
such as no jumping out of a car window stopped or moving

like when i arrive anywhere in the car i sit for almost a minute
perfectly still and silent so there's no tendency for bolting
and the dog doesn't dare get out until i say the magic "OK"

that being said...my dogs are always herding dogs that need to
run and fetch everything you throw for them...

dogs cannot run and fetch when on a six foot leash
and some dogs absolutely live for that

i just think that some beaches could have a section dedicated for them....
and the owners should have plastic bags for stool pick up
or be heavily fined ...

I have been attacked by a dog that tore all my clothes off as a kid
and it even ripped and tore off my underwear,my shirt, and i had to

take my shredded pants and wrap them around me like a diaper just to walk home.
I had many bite marks and scratches all over me too.

on the other hand i do not believe in recoil leashes as one almost
killed my mother in law when her little dog ran it around her legs
twice tripping her as she stumbled all tied up and came so close to
(just 2 inches away)
bashing in her skull on a brick mailbox enclosure.
that i thank God it did not happen.... too.

[BasicPatrick]

Originally Posted by CaptMike

I'm so sick of the dog nonsense on cape beaches. In chatham we can't have them on hardings or lighthouse beach at all from april through september. I know piping plovers are important (to someone) and whatnot just why not short leashes or soemthing instead istead of banning them all together, it drives me nuts!

Mike...with no bs or sarcasm intended...there were like a dozen people that showed up when the town had the hearing about bannning the dogs from Hardings...the pro doggie people were outnumbered something like ten to one at the hearing...I hat to say it but democracy worked that day...the majority, and that evenign it was a vast majority won out....still sucks though

[CaptMike]

Originally Posted by BasicPatrick

Mike...with no bs or sarcasm intended...there were like a dozen people that showed up when the town had the hearing about bannning the dogs from Hardings...the pro doggie people were outnumbered something like ten to one at the hearing...I hat to say it but democracy worked that day...the majority, and that evenign it was a vast majority won out....still sucks though

I'm sure they were in the majority. I work in politics and spend a lot of time setting up and attending hearings. For very small issues like this it's typically the most extreme people who come out in numbers and make the most noise. If it were something that affected a lot more people or something that drastically affected people we usually see a much different demographic. Either way I'm sick of these leash laws nonsense.

[CaptMike]

Originally Posted by CaptMike

I'm sure they were in the majority. I work in politics and spend a lot of time setting up and attending hearings. For very small issues like this it's typically the most extreme people who come out in numbers and make the most noise. If it were something that affected a lot more people or something that drastically affected people we usually see a much different demographic. Either way I'm sick of these leash laws nonsense.

I didn't mean to sound condescending in that post this issue just frustrates me. I support almost all conservation efforts especially on the cape but I can't believe that dogs on 6 foot leashes are going to wipe out the piping plover populations

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by CaptMike

I didn't mean to sound condescending in that post this issue just frustrates me. I support almost all conservation efforts especially on the cape but I can't believe that dogs on 6 foot leashes are going to wipe out the piping plover populations

People are ridiculous when it comes to these damn birds.