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			09-16-2009, 06:16 PM
			
			
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			09-16-2009, 06:41 PM
			
			
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			09-16-2009, 06:53 PM
			
			
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			09-16-2009, 07:08 PM
			
			
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		 I've never used these things before but these look nice.  How long do these things last?  It just looks like a big fish would tear these things up or bend them up pretty bad.  Please don't take this the wrong way cuz I don't know sheet about these things!  I respect the work and hours you have put into this.  Good luck. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-16-2009, 07:32 PM
			
			
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			09-16-2009, 08:56 PM
			
			
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			09-16-2009, 08:43 PM
			
			
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			09-16-2009, 11:49 PM
			
			
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		 if you were asking for feedback on a design that is one thing.  but this is a commercial venture and you have posted product pictures, rave reviews, and the company name.  what do ya expect?  maybe you could have skirted by if you didn't name the company and post all the positive benefits and feedback (catch this fish and that fish, premium components, better than the competition, etc) - if that's not advertising then I don't know what is (and i work in advertising!). 
		
		
		
		
		
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		I can see some points to this and some I dont.... I know some people would say that is advertising but again.... If you dont want to get hammered dont word it like a commercial or ad... Edit your post to remove cost and other statements and I am sure if people want info they can PM you... I get touchy over this because well at one point I did work with someone hand in hand with a plug situation and he wanted all hush hush so I could try to sell the plugs on a different site... T/T you know who it is and I believe we may have gotten off on the wrong foot over there also....   So my advice is this dont word it like an ad by all means show off your work... if people are interested they will contact you.. Or find a shop to retail and push them to the boat guys...lol 
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-17-2009, 09:32 AM
			
			
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		Foul Hooker (hilarious name by the way    )
 
Your post here hit just about all the key items people use when they want to spam the forums for commercial gain:
 -  Hey, got this great widget that crushes fish but I'm not selling them here
 
- They're a killer, people can't keep their hands off
 
- A picture showing said killer widget
 
- Company & product name stealthily (sometimes) inserted into commentary.
 
- Materials description
 
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- Disclaimers
 
 It almost always starts the same way. For those that have been watching it as long as I and some others here have, this looked formulaic.
 
Only thing missing was having another recent new user (often from the same computer    ) jumping on the thread and miraculously sounding like the other half of a Billy Mays pitch (may he rest in peace) - Key item of the Predator Lures Effect
 
So, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that, as you state, this is not a trolling for commercial benefit. I would like you to hang out and have some fun participating in our little community here. Please refrain from pushing your commercial wares at this time. Instead, hang out, have a virtual beverage, chat with the locals. If this is the best thing since sliced bread, we'll talk down the road about it.
 
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		Maybe it's just me, but I have trouble seeing how using umbrella rigs could be considered sporting by anyone?   Might as well drag a gill net        
 
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			09-17-2009, 10:30 AM
			
			
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				Maybe it's just me, but I have trouble seeing how using umbrella rigs could be considered sporting by anyone?   Might as well drag a gill net        
 
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 Jake sorry to have to do this to ya but it would be draggin a net man like a trawl net AKA dragger... Gillnets are considered a ground fishery FIXED gear... They drift with current but dont get dragged... Not trying to be a #^^^^& just dont want the two confused cause I have seen that in other threads... As far as the whole umbrella rig thing.. They work   the "Angler" only works when they are hit or loaded with a full purse of blues so yes its not really the same as say... wetsuiting out into the water... Nice pics by the way... But in this case of "sportsmanship" its really six of one half dozen of the other... Or personal opinion of what sport is... But Id rather drift plugs,bait, off a boat then troll so what do I know...   
		
		
		
		
		
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 Why is it unsporting?  Is it because of the multiple lures/hooks or the fact that it is trolled behind a boat?  What about hi-lo rigs fished on the beach or tube-n-worm trolled behind a boat?  Are those sporting?
 
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		Hi John,  
Sorry about this whole post.... I regret even sharing it...I guess I should of just put up some pics of my latest inventions and not said a word about selling them... I honestly really had no intention of getting business or advertising on these boards, as far as boasting about it, I was just so excited that I came up with something that works awesome that I built myself and that people in our area really liked it....I was looking for some feed back about the rigs themself, how they here made ect.. I didnt mean to drop the company name like it sounded either... I don't have a website or anything so I didnt think it was advertising... My name is Heather and H Bomb is my nickname .. sorry about that, thats where the whole name came about...
 
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				Foul Hooker (hilarious name by the way    )
 
Your post here hit just about all the key items people use when they want to spam the forums for commercial gain:
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Only thing missing was having another recent new user (often from the same computer    ) jumping on the thread and miraculously sounding like the other half of a Billy Mays pitch (may he rest in peace) - Key item of the Predator Lures Effect
 
So, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that, as you state, this is not a trolling for commercial benefit. I would like you to hang out and have some fun participating in our little community here. Please refrain from pushing your commercial wares at this time. Instead, hang out, have a virtual beverage, chat with the locals. If this is the best thing since sliced bread, we'll talk down the road about it.
 
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