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09-17-2009, 09:43 AM
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Maybe it's just me, but I have trouble seeing how using umbrella rigs could be considered sporting by anyone? Might as well drag a gill net
But,,,, that's just my opinion which doesn't matter to anyone, I'm sure...
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"For our discussion of surfcasting is no trifling matter, but is the way to conduct our lives….nobody untrained in fishing may enter my house." - Plato (c.428-c.348 BCE)
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09-17-2009, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JakeF
Maybe it's just me, but I have trouble seeing how using umbrella rigs could be considered sporting by anyone? Might as well drag a gill net
But,,,, that's just my opinion which doesn't matter to anyone, I'm sure...
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Jake sorry to have to do this to ya but it would be draggin a net man like a trawl net AKA dragger... Gillnets are considered a ground fishery FIXED gear... They drift with current but dont get dragged... Not trying to be a #^^^^& just dont want the two confused cause I have seen that in other threads... As far as the whole umbrella rig thing.. They work the "Angler" only works when they are hit or loaded with a full purse of blues so yes its not really the same as say... wetsuiting out into the water... Nice pics by the way... But in this case of "sportsmanship" its really six of one half dozen of the other... Or personal opinion of what sport is... But Id rather drift plugs,bait, off a boat then troll so what do I know... 
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09-18-2009, 12:42 AM
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West Siiiiiiiiide
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: San Francisco
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JakeF
Maybe it's just me, but I have trouble seeing how using umbrella rigs could be considered sporting by anyone?
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Why is it unsporting? Is it because of the multiple lures/hooks or the fact that it is trolled behind a boat? What about hi-lo rigs fished on the beach or tube-n-worm trolled behind a boat? Are those sporting?
Not trying to be an ass, just honestly curious. 
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Lookin for my big'un!
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09-18-2009, 03:46 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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we need more sponsers
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09-18-2009, 07:13 AM
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Location: New Bedford, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scoobe
Why is it unsporting? Is it because of the multiple lures/hooks or the fact that it is trolled behind a boat? What about hi-lo rigs fished on the beach or tube-n-worm trolled behind a boat? Are those sporting?
Not trying to be an ass, just honestly curious. 
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Like spotlighting deer at night, shooting turkeys off their roost, or running a trot line across a river, trolling a whole school of baitfish just makes catching way too easy in my humble opinion. Anyone can tow one of those rigs around the bay or islands and practically be guaranteed a high catch rate, even if they spend zero time studying any of the factors and putting in the time that makes a good fisherman what he is. I have trouble seeing where the sport is in that. It's the easy way out and in my opinion, catching fish on an umbrella rig is an achievement that ranks right up there with getting out of bed in the morning. There's a reason some states have banned the use of rigs with more than 2 or 3 hooks.
Besides, these rigs generally result in the catching of very many small fish (ever wonder why very few coms & charter boats use them? They're targeting larger fish and that's not what these are for). I'm not saying you'll never catch a large fish on one, but that's generally not the case. I used them myself for a while when I was first starting out, but quickly got bored with unhooking one small fish after another and started to actually think about what I was doing, studying the fish and their habits, and learning to fish in ways that are actually challenging to me as an angler. To me, fishing is about the hunt and the personal challenge, not about bailing fish out as fast as possible.
But,,,,,,, that's just me I guess. 
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"For our discussion of surfcasting is no trifling matter, but is the way to conduct our lives….nobody untrained in fishing may enter my house." - Plato (c.428-c.348 BCE)
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09-18-2009, 07:56 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Originally Posted by JakeF
Besides, these rigs generally result in the catching of very many small fish (ever wonder why very few coms & charter boats use them? They're targeting larger fish and that's not what these are for). I'm not saying you'll never catch a large fish on one, but that's generally not the case. I used them myself for a while when I was first starting out, but quickly got bored with unhooking one small fish after another and started to actually think about what I was doing, studying the fish and their habits, and learning to fish in ways that are actually challenging to me as an angler. To me, fishing is about the hunt and the personal challenge, not about bailing fish out as fast as possible.But,,,,,,, that's just me I guess. 
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Spoken like someone w/o a clue to how to use them. And if you think charter boats never troll them  and they only catch small fish...
I'm not someone who enjoys trolling for bass, but they do work, well.
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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09-18-2009, 08:45 AM
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Easton, MA
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Spoken like someone w/o a clue to how to use them. And if you think charter boats never troll them  and they only catch small fish...
I'm not someone who enjoys trolling for bass, but they do work, well.
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I've personally seen two 40+ pound bass taken on umbrella's. One of them had an 8 pound blue hooked up with the bass. The guy on the rod though he had a new record until he saw the blue on it.
I don't care to use them because when you get into a school of blues, they make a mess of them. On the rare occasions that I troll, it's usually with tube and worm or jigging with wire.
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