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07-30-2010, 08:40 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,038
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Sebile Stick Shadd - Cost Effective Alternatives? MAYBE!
Talk about an ungawdly amount of $ to lay out for a lure! But the results do speak for themselves.
After watching some YouTube it looks to me like these are just fancy subsurface glide baits. Musky guys have used plugs with a similar action for quite a while.
So, what might do the trick without breaking the bank? Some ideas:
Rapala XRap Subwalk 15 - A subsurface walk the dog plug. 6" and 2oz..
Yo-Zuri Edge Trembler 125 - Similar to the Rap, but much thinner in shape. 5" and 1oz.
Search these on YT, and watch their actions. They may do the job at a much nicer price.
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07-30-2010, 08:51 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
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I heard that next year's Sebile lures are going to be packaged with hardware that is actually usable. I'm sure that will add another couple of bucks to the price.
I use Yo-Zuri and XRap lures and have had a lot of success with them this year and last. Haven't had the chance to use them next to someone with a Sebile to see how our fish catching pairs up though. Thanks for the info, I've been wondering about the Subwalks.
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07-30-2010, 09:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 84
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They look nice but the Stick shad I use is 4.5 oz. Not sure if a 2 oz.'er will get the same depth.
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07-30-2010, 10:13 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Onset
Posts: 1,228
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25$ really isn't that ungodly considering how much a decent wooden plug is.
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07-30-2010, 10:57 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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30-35 bucks for an injected plastic lure with hardware "YOU NEED TO REPLACE WHEN YOU BUY IT?" Thanks I will pass. The results are undeniable but I always tend to go against the grain and not with it. 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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07-31-2010, 06:56 AM
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Great White Scup Hunter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In the Corner...
Posts: 2,251
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
30-35 bucks for an injected plastic lure with hardware "YOU NEED TO REPLACE WHEN YOU BUY IT?" Thanks I will pass. The results are undeniable but I always tend to go against the grain and not with it. 
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That is EXACTLY the reason I won't buy one.
There is no reason a plastic lure needs to cost that much money.   Unfortunately when the economy gets back into swing you will see the cost of Everything go way up.
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07-31-2010, 08:44 AM
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Work hard. Fish harder.
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 764
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
30-35 bucks for an injected plastic lure with hardware "YOU NEED TO REPLACE WHEN YOU BUY IT?"
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That does not sound very fishconomic.
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07-31-2010, 05:58 AM
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Canceled
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
Posts: 13,425
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Cordell needs to come out with one for $8
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07-31-2010, 07:41 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,038
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True that
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Cordell needs to come out with one for $8
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I bet a little tinkering with 7" Redfin, a hacksaw, a drill, some lead shot, and a bit of mineral oil could yield just that!
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07-31-2010, 09:55 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: MA/RI
Posts: 2,411
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The plugs that you find in your present day surf bag will someday be replaced with different types. Hard and soft plastic can be molded shaps and patterns that a wood lathe can't produce.
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07-31-2010, 10:00 AM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redsoxticket
Hard and soft plastic can be molded shaps and patterns that a wood lathe can't produce.
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Not to mention consistency . You tell your buddy it's a good plug ,, He runs down and buys one and it's the same . Bob Pond figured that out in 1948 .
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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07-31-2010, 12:39 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Pembroke,MA
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You know I said I wouldn't buy them. But guess what when you're standing right next to your buddy tonging fish after fish on them your mind will change real quick just like me.
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07-31-2010, 10:16 PM
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Pete K.
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,953
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I own one that I got for free, and I pass on the thing every time... it never stays in my bag long... Maybe I missed the big announcement that this lure meant the difference between fish and no fish this year... maybe I need to give it another try... the hooks look garbage though... if youre gonna charge 35 bucks, give 35 bucks worth... and if its geared for fresh water, then why is mine a mack pattern with garbage hooks???
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08-01-2010, 02:03 PM
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Lubina Estriada!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 307
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanputski
why is mine a mack pattern with garbage hooks???
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Boom! I was wondering the same thing. The Polish Hammer!  lol
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Kayak Fishing Baby! Fish Reel Hard!
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08-02-2010, 08:28 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pembroke
Posts: 3,343
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The only heartbreak to the Sebile is when fish hit so hard they snap your leader! I can't express how hard fish hit this lure! One guy yelled jokingly at me to let others catch some fish! That said there are three fish swimming around with one stuck in their mouth.
I am a "crack corner" believer. Mike may retire early the way I've been going through these.
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08-02-2010, 06:59 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,038
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I was strong today. I had one in my hands at Cabelas, and I put it back on the shelf.
I did grab 2 Rapala Subwalks though! For $11.50 each, why not?
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08-02-2010, 07:52 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: new bedford, Ma.
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Because you can't use both of those rapalas at the same time. Should have gone with the stick Shad.
They definetly work. Still won't fill my bag with them. Fun plug to work and watch.
Seems people are bumming on the price which is understandable but still not as bad as buying a wooden metal lip that comes unrigged that will not get fished.
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08-03-2010, 04:40 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 26
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storm kickin stick 15$ 
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08-03-2010, 11:03 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: stoughton, ma
Posts: 494
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I would continue to use them at $60 ea. and they would still be most "Cost Effective" plug when considerng catch rate. They really are worth the dough.
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08-03-2010, 02:52 PM
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Pete K.
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,953
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When many of speak of their effectiveness and catch rate, what is the application? canal? boat? I fish mostly surf, and the thing just seems way too light for the conditions I like. I am ALMOST ready to give mine a try... I should just trade it to someone for a nice needlefish... Besides, Hype usually turns me OFF to an item, not the other way around. call me stubborn
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08-04-2010, 10:52 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: stoughton, ma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanputski
When many of speak of their effectiveness and catch rate, what is the application? canal? boat? I fish mostly surf, and the thing just seems way too light for the conditions I like. I am ALMOST ready to give mine a try... I should just trade it to someone for a nice needlefish... Besides, Hype usually turns me OFF to an item, not the other way around. call me stubborn
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I have lots of nice needles, what would you like?
This plug is amazing in the canal, but I do much better on the rocky beaches with needles.
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08-03-2010, 03:04 PM
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#22
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pembroke
Posts: 3,343
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The Sebile is extremely effective in the ditch. I certainly can't qualify the fish I cath as "skill" must be luck and the lures. I have caught several off pencils and poppers, but lately the big fish seem to hit the Sebile really hard, and prefer it to all the other guys around me throwing pencils,poppers etc.
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