Cup in Newport Yes or No?

[nightfighter]

America's Cup decision today....What do the locals think? Do you want it there? Pros? Cons? Economic impact outweigh everything else? And.... how will it affect the local fishing?

[JohnR]

Want it, YES. Will it happen? Probably not. Fishing? All those hiding on Aquidneck Island will have a more difficult time now and will be forced to spend more time over bridges.

[Dick Durand]

Awaiting the final decision and I'm unsure of Newport's odds. I do want it for the monetary boost and jobs it would provide the state. Also recall the glory days of Dennis Connors and Ted Turner in Newport. In any case I fish the other side of the Bay.

[Nebe]

Personally, I'd love to see it come back. That being said, the town can't handle the crowds.

As far as fishing does, it won't effect it very much IMO.
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[striperman36]

I would like to see it in Newport. Although I think the new facilities would have to be elsewhere, I just can't see the inner harbor handling the teams for 2 or more years. Maybe we can get rid of that last carrier and build a world class facilities down on that pier.

[DZ]

I live in Newport. Would like to see it but not if tax payers have to foot the bill. They have to tell me how to pay for it. I suggest a tax levy on all marinas, boat dealers, etc. They want it here - they should pay for the improvements at Ft Adams. That state park belongs to all residents of RI - I'd hate to see the park given over to another private entity like yacht racing. You already have Sail Newport taking over a section of my park. Try fishing off the floating docks at Sail Newport - they chase you off. I'm afraid of more space being taken over by the sailing crowd. The bilionaire from BMW Oracle is holding Newport and San Fransisco over a barrel. I'd kick him in the ass and send him to Italy if he's not happy.

DZ

[PaulS]

Crowds have been down noticably over the last few years so it would be good economically.

[basswipe]

Its not going to happen.

Would love it to happen,with all of Jerry's contacts I'd be working nonstop for the next two years.

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by basswipe

Its not going to happen.

Would love it to happen,with all of Jerry's contacts I'd be working nonstop for the next two years.

The Comittee has to announce today or some legal wragglin will have to occur. I'm thinkin SF has it, with Larry Ellison being out there, but who know's neither city has finalized anything.

Who's Jerry?

[basswipe]

Originally Posted by striperman36

The Comittee has to announce today or some legal wragglin will have to occur. I'm thinkin SF has it, with Larry Ellison being out there, but who know's neither city has finalized anything.

Who's Jerry?

Kirby.I've worked for him for the past 17yrs.

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by basswipe

Kirby.I've worked for him for the past 17yrs.

Okay, now I know who you mean. I didn't think you were in the boat business though.

[Fishpart]

I am a cynic, the whole thing is about pushing the price lower. Without Newport, SF has little or no competition otherwise

[chefchris401]

It would be great for businesses, as a chef I know the restaurants have been slower in past year, with this year being the worst in a long time.

As far as fishing I only fish at night and I NEVER see anyone except the two guys I fish with.

Most guys who fish Newport are blitz seekers.

Don't think it will happen though.
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[Nebe]

I've always loved Gleam.
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[Nebe]

Doing an ocean passage on a 12 from the mid 70's to the 80's would be akin to fishing the edge of the continental shelf in a center console. You can do it, but.............
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[likwid]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Doing an ocean passage on a 12 from the mid 70's to the 80's would be akin to fishing the edge of the continental shelf in a center console. You can do it, but.............
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Has anyone mentioned Dockwise?

[Saltheart]

I went to all but race 7 in 1983. I sailed out for race 7 with the fleet but it was postponed do to lack of wind so i sailed from the race grounds back to guilford Ct. It was a great experience to see the whole scene in newport. The Aussies are great party animals. I thought it was good that Australia won and even better when Conner won it back from them. There were some great cup defenders leike Intrepid and courageous and Freedom. Many thought the older freedom was a more capable all around boat than liberty which of course lost it. Austarlia ll was a big inovation. It also had a great crew and captain. What Stars and Stripes did to develop a boat to win it back in 87 was really a phenominal show of engineering , sailing and financing efforts. They built 3 trial horses then incorporated all the best in Stars and Stripes 55 which was a remarkeable boat for sailing off the coast of Austarlia. Conner , although disliked by many many many... was a great captain and redeemed himself by winning it right back in 87.

After that it all went to hell with rules becoming court battles and really stupid boats being built. That era ruined the reputation of the Cup as we knew it.

Anyway , its not coming to newport. All that infrastructure that handled it in 83 is all shopping centers and condos now. i didn't like the whole Fort Adams thing. leave that for the everyday people. Let the gazzilionaires buy and develop private property.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by Saltheart

After that it all went to hell with rules becoming court battles and really stupid boats being built. That era ruined the reputation of the Cup as we knew it.

Don't worry, Larry Ellison is doing it again.

RIP ACC boats.

[striperman36]

I found America II and Freedom outside today. Where's the 3rd one outside at NEB? Some unnamed white appears to be 12 meter in the row 4 sale though,

[likwid]

Originally Posted by striperman36

I found America II and Freedom outside today. Where's the 3rd one outside at NEB? Some unnamed white appears to be 12 meter in the row 4 sale though,

Thats #3
Its one of the aussie boats (I believe Australia II).
#4 is in the 2nd shed, unless they moved it.

Is Shindig still right at the gate? (the blue hulled sled)

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by likwid

Thats #3
Its one of the aussie boats (I believe Australia II).
#4 is in the 2nd shed, unless they moved it.

Is Shindig still right at the gate? (the blue hulled sled)

yes it is. so that's 4.

there is no markings on the white one at all, its the size and the odd keel that gives a distinct re-look

[PaulS]

Anyone remember when one of the guys from another country got arrested for scuba diving under Connor's boat to take a picture of the keel and got arrested? A friend's friend got arrested for public drunkedness that same night and ended up being handcuffed to the guy. They had to do a perp walk the next day while the guy was still in his wetsuit. He made a few papers.

[Nebe]

You got it wrong. The diver was trying too look at australias new revolutionary winged keel. We knew their keel was different, but didn't know about the wings.
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[Saltheart]

Thats correct. A lot of effort went into getting a look at Australia ll's keel. I remember the diver incident.

I wonder why it was determined that the diver had broken the law and what law he broke?

[Nebe]

Trespassing?
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[Saltheart]

Maybe tresspassing. In the water is certainly below the high water mark. Anyway , just curious as a trivia thing.

[Nebe]

im completely assuming that when a marina is granted permits for docks, its property lines then extend into the water and at least a boats width around each dock. But again... i have no idea.