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02-19-2015, 11:29 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 2,574
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Moratorium Blast from the past
Did some research and found this from 1983.
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
Bi + Ne = SB 2
If you haven't heard of the Snowstorm Blitz of 1987 - you someday will.
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02-19-2015, 12:40 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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The more things change the more they stay the same.
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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02-19-2015, 12:58 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Oh, I remember it so well.
You young guys have no idea. You could fish for 3 weeks every night and never touch a striper. Bluefish were all you caught.
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No boat, back in the suds.  
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02-19-2015, 01:20 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
Posts: 3,748
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
Oh, I remember it so well.
You young guys have no idea. You could fish for 3 weeks every night and never touch a striper. Bluefish were all you caught.
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spoiled..aint we... I do remember... we were lucky on PI... we had a lot of fish ... I remember thinking that everyone was crazy with all this talk about a decline.. we were bailing big numbers of big fish every night.. and not just me.. everyone fishing the area.. I've still got the articles from the Boston globe and herald with the news of the outstanding fishing in the area in the weekly reports..in '86 ..I had 3 fish over 50..including a 61... .... then almost overnight it all 'went a stinker"... then I was too young to realize I had witnessed what could have been the last buffalo hunt... I didn't realize there were not enough small fish to replace the big ones. And not enough big ones to make little ones.... in '88 I went 21 straight nights( yes I fished EVERY night) with out a big fish...it took time to sink in... I'm hoping not to see a repeat.. |
A good run is better than a bad stand!
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02-22-2015, 06:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: S. Jersey Shore
Posts: 912
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
Oh, I remember it so well.
You young guys have no idea. You could fish for 3 weeks every night and never touch a striper. Bluefish were all you caught.
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And "If" you caught a bass it was 18-20".
Paul, unfortunately the kids will get to see it soon!  |
 "The lips stand out because she wants to suck on your Pikie."....Mike Laptew
Van Staal Service/Repair Technician
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02-19-2015, 01:47 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,295
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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02-19-2015, 06:51 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Not close enough to the water!
Posts: 403
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The first 4 Striped Bass & Bluefish Derby's I fished, no striper category, and we weren't seeing any caught. Bluefish were winning the boats.
You couldn't keep any size bass; the charters and headboats fished blues, tog, scup, flounder and they seemed to hold steady.
I fished mostly the CT shore line and all anyone was catching was blues.
I worry this may be it; I don't see the forage base I used to.
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02-19-2015, 10:22 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 260
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justfishin'
The first 4 Striped Bass & Bluefish Derby's I fished, no striper category, and we weren't seeing any caught. Bluefish were winning the boats.
You couldn't keep any size bass; the charters and headboats fished blues, tog, scup, flounder and they seemed to hold steady.
I fished mostly the CT shore line and all anyone was catching was blues.
I worry this may be it; I don't see the forage base I used to.
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And when I do find bunker - there is no bass on 'em.... sad. |
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02-20-2015, 10:02 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
Posts: 8,642
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history may very well repeat itself... we as a whole are such effin' idiots.
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02-20-2015, 10:44 AM
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Pete K.
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,953
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In the last 3 seasons of surfcasting, a total of 225+ nights,
I have caught a grand total of 9 bluefish while targeting bass.
10 years ago, it was in the hundreds. I fish rigged eels with such
confidence that they wont get bitten in half by a blue these days, I only pack 1 for the night.
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02-20-2015, 12:04 PM
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Red Eye Jedi
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: East Facing
Posts: 4,374
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanputski
In the last 3 seasons of surfcasting, a total of 225+ nights,
I have caught a grand total of 9 bluefish while targeting bass.
10 years ago, it was in the hundreds. I fish rigged eels with such
confidence that they wont get bitten in half by a blue these days, I only pack 1 for the night.
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This is so true. Where the hell did they go? Certainly plenty of bait last year... |
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02-20-2015, 01:10 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 4,834
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanputski
In the last 3 seasons of surfcasting, a total of 225+ nights,
I have caught a grand total of 9 bluefish while targeting bass.
10 years ago, it was in the hundreds. I fish rigged eels with such
confidence that they wont get bitten in half by a blue these days, I only pack 1 for the night.
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Try to find them for tuna bait and they become even more scarce
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02-20-2015, 12:19 PM
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See you at the beach.
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Vero Beach FL. Bradford, RI.
Posts: 3,780
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Back in those days Dennis, I took up golf instead of surfcasting. Long Island Sound near coastal waters were devoid of bass for a few years at least. I am actually still amazed at the comeback that the striped bass made, I figured it was over.
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02-21-2015, 05:20 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Buxton, Maine
Posts: 1,727
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The greedy will always be greedy. Greedy has much more power than fairness.That's why the fish come last.SAD
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02-21-2015, 08:57 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Sturbridge MA
Posts: 3,127
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I didn't live through the moratorium. I started striper fishing around 92 ish i think. I remember not catching fish, because i sucked at it,and maybe becasue there weren't many fish around. When i got my first keeper i was so damn happy and didn't think about needing another fish to take home. Imagining what fishing would be like without bass in our waters is scary stuff. I have been luck the past couple years to have found decent schools of big fish on occasion. On occasion though, many strike outs sprinkled with a few memorable nights. The disturbing thing is that they are not in places where i use to catch them. The places in RI where i use to be able to check my logs and go catch fish now are deserts. The only saving grace i am seeing in RI is that there appear to be a lot of small fish. We better do something to protect these fish as they grow. Take greed off the table. If people can't agree on 1 @ 28 across the board i think shutting it down like they did in the article would be a good idea.
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Everything is better on the rocks.
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02-22-2015, 11:14 AM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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I remember it well , I know we are doomed to repeat it . Different people saying the same thing . "There are plenty of fish" Then when it collapses they'll skirt the blame and say "Pollution caused it".
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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02-22-2015, 11:22 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tagger
I remember it well , I know we are doomed to repeat it . Different people saying the same thing . "There are plenty of fish" Then when it collapses they'll skirt the blame and say "Pollution caused it".
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Or the bait is the problem or the weather or some other cockamamie reason.
The fisheries managers have their heads so far up their a$$ they can see what they had for breakfast. |
No boat, back in the suds.
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02-22-2015, 12:17 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
Posts: 5,659
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
Or the bait is the problem or the weather or some other cockamamie reason.
The fisheries managers have their heads so far up their a$$ they can see what they had for breakfast.
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It has been scientifically proven that the weather is the problem. Bass need a rainy, cool weather pattern in the late winter/early spring for the YOY to survive and thrive. |
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02-22-2015, 11:38 AM
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,505
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Occam's Razor.
In the absence of certainty, the fewer assumptions that are made the better.
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02-22-2015, 12:19 PM
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,505
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At lot more at play than just the weather.
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02-22-2015, 02:27 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
Posts: 5,659
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MAKAI
At lot more at play than just the weather.
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Nothing else matters if the fry don't survive. |
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02-22-2015, 03:12 PM
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,505
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Hypoxia, pollution, predation,easier to find and exploit by tech etc.etc.
I surprised they are still here....for now.
There is only one thing we can directly control in the myriad of things that effect the fish from fry to adult.
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May fortune favor the foolish....
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02-22-2015, 04:23 PM
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FyshhTrap
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: upper N.Y. state area
Posts: 92
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I'm sorry I have to admit that I keep two stripers a year
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02-22-2015, 04:25 PM
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FyshhTrap
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: upper N.Y. state area
Posts: 92
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I'm sorry I have to admit I keep at least two stripers a year
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02-22-2015, 06:35 PM
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Pete K.
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,953
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For the naysayers...
Why the hell risk it???
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02-22-2015, 07:17 PM
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,505
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Ea$y $imple an$wer.
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02-23-2015, 08:57 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MAKAI
Ea$y $imple an$wer.
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I really believe the answer is GAME FISH STATUS!
No kill for the next 3 years, no commercial ever again and make the fish a game fish with NO commercial sale or commercial (restaurant or market) consumption. This would also solve the "black market" as if you can't buy it in an eating establishment, the black market would almost disappear.
Florida did it with Snook and Tarpon and no have a world class fishery. |
No boat, back in the suds.
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02-23-2015, 09:09 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 4,834
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
I really believe the answer is GAME FISH STATUS!
No kill for the next 3 years, no commercial ever again and make the fish a game fish with NO commercial sale or commercial (restaurant or market) consumption. This would also solve the "black market" as if you can't buy it in an eating establishment, the black market would almost disappear.
Florida did it with Snook and Tarpon and no have a world class fishery.
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Want to buy a beautiful downeast charter boat ? You'll do well selling the experience 
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02-26-2015, 11:52 AM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 17,125
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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02-22-2015, 08:07 PM
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Pete K.
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,953
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Have you ever seen an oblivious moron driving while loudly dragging a hanging muffler, or driving full speed on a obviously flat tire? Some people continue to ignore a major problem and just drive instead of pulling over to see whats wrong. As long as the car can move forward, they push it ... Until it totally dies and they cant drive it another inch .
The only difference here is , we all partially own the car the moron is driving.
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