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[zimmy]

"I am extremely disappointed that a candidate like Corey Stewart could win the Republican nomination for US Senate," former Virginia Republican Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling tweeted. "This is clearly not the Republican Party I once knew, loved and proudly served. Every time I think things can't get worse they do, and there is no end in sight."

No doubt.
This is not the party of Reagan, Bush 1, or even Bush 2.

[spence]

Hell, Trump has said more racist and bigoted things than Stewart and he was the presidency. Welcome to the new GOP.

[Jim in CT]

Hey, we nominated a witch to run for the senate in 2010, right? That was at least as bad. Politics is often a dirty, dirty business.

Zimmy, Spence, I have news for you. There are hundreds and hundreds of Republicans running for US Congress in the midterms. I wish I could say with a straight face, that all of them are good people. They won't be. However, that only says so much about "the Republican party", which is more than Trump, more than the few hundred who run for Congress. There are tens of millions of registered Republicans. Voting for a candidate, is not an endorsement of everything that candidate says or does.

Bill Clinton recently said rules on 'what you can do to somebody against their will' have changed. Zimmy and Spence, are you responsible for that disgusting statement? Does that statement say anything about you at all?

Didn't think so.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Hey, we nominated a witch to run for the senate in 2010, right?

If the "witch" was Christine O'Donnell, I think her political viewpoint pretty much mirrors some of the ones I see here. On the right.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If the "witch" was Christine O'Donnell, I think her political viewpoint pretty much mirrors some of the ones I see here. On the right.

I don't think he is disagreeing with you.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Hey, we nominated a witch to run for the senate in 2010, right? That was at least as bad. Politics is often a dirty, dirty business.

She wasn't a witch Jim.

Zimmy, Spence, I have news for you. There are hundreds and hundreds of Republicans running for US Congress in the midterms. I wish I could say with a straight face, that all of them are good people. They won't be. However, that only says so much about "the Republican party", which is more than Trump, more than the few hundred who run for Congress. There are tens of millions of registered Republicans. Voting for a candidate, is not an endorsement of everything that candidate says or does.

He was endorsed by the POTUS who's the de facto leader of the Republican party. Just shows that Trump would rather have extreme Trumpist candidates rather than actually win races.

Bill Clinton recently said rules on 'what you can do to somebody against their will' have changed. Zimmy and Spence, are you responsible for that disgusting statement? Does that statement say anything about you at all?

It was a clumsy statement but put in context he clearly wasn't saying there ever was a time it was ok.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

It was a clumsy statement but put in context he clearly wasn't saying there ever was a time it was ok.

If only Hitler had you as his PR spin guy in 1935. Whenever a democrat says something sinister, you dismiss it as clumsy, or taken out of context. Always. They're never just bad people like Trump is, not ever.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

If only Hitler had you as his PR spin guy in 1935. Whenever a democrat says something sinister, you dismiss it as clumsy, or taken out of context. Always. They're never just bad people like Trump is, not ever.

Jim, here's a little process to help you out.

1) Read something
2) Table emotional response for the moment
3) Look up context for what you read
4) Verify sources
5) Think critically
6) Form opinion

Please.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

She wasn't a witch Jim.


He was endorsed by the POTUS who's the de facto leader of the Republican party. Just shows that Trump would rather have extreme Trumpist candidates rather than actually win races.


It was a clumsy statement but put in context he clearly wasn't saying there ever was a time it was ok.

Trump is the leader of the party, I agree. But he isn't the party, nor is Corey Stewart. "The party" is the people who believe life is sacred, that liberty is sacred, that we have a responsibility to help the less fortunate, and that government should be no larger than necessary to do the small number of things we need government to do. All of the tens of millions of people who believe these things, they are the GOP.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Bill Clinton recently said rules on 'what you can do to somebody against their will' have changed. Zimmy and Spence, are you responsible for that disgusting statement? Does that statement say anything about you at all?

Didn't think so.

I think you could have quoted this sentence just as easily:And I think that all of us should just be focusing on how to do better and how to go forward.
But of course it doesn't fit your agenda on making anyone who is center or left, bad.
Here is the full question and answer
JUDY WOODRUFF, PBS NEWSHOUR: I assume you think that what happened with you was more serious than what happened with Senator — former Senator Al Franken.

He was driven from office, from the U.S. Senate. So, norms have changed. Do you think that’s a good thing?
FORMER PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON: Well, in general, I think it’s a good thing, yes.

I think it’s a good thing that we should all have higher standards. I think the norms have really changed in terms of, what you can do to somebody against their will, how much you can crowd their space, make them miserable at work.

You don’t have to physically assault somebody to make them, you know, uncomfortable at work or at home or in their other — just walking around. That, I think, is good.

I think that — I will be honest — the Franken case, for me, was a difficult case, a hard case. There may be things I don’t know. But I — maybe I’m just an old-fashioned person, but it seemed to me that there were 29 women on “Saturday Night Live” that put out a statement for him, and that the first and most fantastic story was called, I believe, into question.

Too late to wade into it now. I mean, I think it’s a grievous thing to take away from the people a decision they have made, especially when there is an election coming up again. But it’s done now.

And I think that all of us should just be focusing on how to do better and how to go forward.

[Jim in CT]

You also conveniently left out that the National Republican Senatorial Committee (the national GOP group that focuses on US senate races) has refused to endorse Stewart, and have said that they won't spend any money on his race.

The people of VA made an odd choice. It seems that "The Republican Party" wants little to do with the guy. It's probably a gift to the democrats in VA, both in the US Senate race as well as downticket.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You also conveniently left out that the National Republican Senatorial Committee (the national GOP group that focuses on US senate races) has refused to endorse Stewart, and have said that they won't spend any money on his race.

I think that is part of the point. Also, I conveniently left out every other thought that exists in the universe. You should probably point out those things as well. Here is something else I conveniently left out:

The reproductive activity of the two-toed sloth does not show any seasonality like the three-toed sloth.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by zimmy

I think that is part of the point. Also, I conveniently left out every other thought that exists in the universe. You should probably point out those things as well. Here is something else I conveniently left out:

The reproductive activity of the two-toed sloth does not show any seasonality like the three-toed sloth.

" conveniently left out every other thought that exists in the universe"

That's true, and also funny. But your post was obviously crafted to imply that because a person of low character was nominated in one specific race, that "the Republican Party" isn't what it used to be. The fact that the GOP Senate Committee wants nothing to do with the guy, suggests to me (pretty clearly) that the GOP isn't turning into a party of Corey Stewarts.

Black unemployment is at an all-time low. If Trump is a racist, it would appear that he's not a very good racist. Not like Robert Byrd, whose presence as a democrat in the Senate for 350 years, somehow didn't paint the democrats with the same broad brush you seem willing to paint the GOP with.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

" conveniently left out every other thought that exists in the universe"

That's true, and also funny. But your post was obviously crafted to imply that because a person of low character was nominated in one specific race, that "the Republican Party" isn't what it used to be.

No, this isn't about one specific race. It is a trend, which is why Bolling said what he said.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by zimmy

No, this isn't about one specific race. It is a trend, which is why Bolling said what he said.

At the State of The Union, which side stood up and cheered low black unemployment, which side sat there with scowls on their faces?

The only trend, is the downward trend of elected seats held by democrats.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by zimmy

The reproductive activity of the two-toed sloth does not show any seasonality like the three-toed sloth.

Probably because it takes them three weeks to rub one out
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[Nebe]

Love thy neighbor, look out for th poor, do on to others. What values are these and does the GOP uphold these values ? If not, who does ?
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