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[Jim in CT]

Hey, we nominated a witch to run for the senate in 2010, right? That was at least as bad. Politics is often a dirty, dirty business.

Zimmy, Spence, I have news for you. There are hundreds and hundreds of Republicans running for US Congress in the midterms. I wish I could say with a straight face, that all of them are good people. They won't be. However, that only says so much about "the Republican party", which is more than Trump, more than the few hundred who run for Congress. There are tens of millions of registered Republicans. Voting for a candidate, is not an endorsement of everything that candidate says or does.

Bill Clinton recently said rules on 'what you can do to somebody against their will' have changed. Zimmy and Spence, are you responsible for that disgusting statement? Does that statement say anything about you at all?

Didn't think so.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Hey, we nominated a witch to run for the senate in 2010, right?

If the "witch" was Christine O'Donnell, I think her political viewpoint pretty much mirrors some of the ones I see here. On the right.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If the "witch" was Christine O'Donnell, I think her political viewpoint pretty much mirrors some of the ones I see here. On the right.

I don't think he is disagreeing with you.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Hey, we nominated a witch to run for the senate in 2010, right? That was at least as bad. Politics is often a dirty, dirty business.

She wasn't a witch Jim.

Zimmy, Spence, I have news for you. There are hundreds and hundreds of Republicans running for US Congress in the midterms. I wish I could say with a straight face, that all of them are good people. They won't be. However, that only says so much about "the Republican party", which is more than Trump, more than the few hundred who run for Congress. There are tens of millions of registered Republicans. Voting for a candidate, is not an endorsement of everything that candidate says or does.

He was endorsed by the POTUS who's the de facto leader of the Republican party. Just shows that Trump would rather have extreme Trumpist candidates rather than actually win races.

Bill Clinton recently said rules on 'what you can do to somebody against their will' have changed. Zimmy and Spence, are you responsible for that disgusting statement? Does that statement say anything about you at all?

It was a clumsy statement but put in context he clearly wasn't saying there ever was a time it was ok.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

It was a clumsy statement but put in context he clearly wasn't saying there ever was a time it was ok.

If only Hitler had you as his PR spin guy in 1935. Whenever a democrat says something sinister, you dismiss it as clumsy, or taken out of context. Always. They're never just bad people like Trump is, not ever.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

If only Hitler had you as his PR spin guy in 1935. Whenever a democrat says something sinister, you dismiss it as clumsy, or taken out of context. Always. They're never just bad people like Trump is, not ever.

Jim, here's a little process to help you out.

1) Read something
2) Table emotional response for the moment
3) Look up context for what you read
4) Verify sources
5) Think critically
6) Form opinion

Please.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

She wasn't a witch Jim.


He was endorsed by the POTUS who's the de facto leader of the Republican party. Just shows that Trump would rather have extreme Trumpist candidates rather than actually win races.


It was a clumsy statement but put in context he clearly wasn't saying there ever was a time it was ok.

Trump is the leader of the party, I agree. But he isn't the party, nor is Corey Stewart. "The party" is the people who believe life is sacred, that liberty is sacred, that we have a responsibility to help the less fortunate, and that government should be no larger than necessary to do the small number of things we need government to do. All of the tens of millions of people who believe these things, they are the GOP.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Bill Clinton recently said rules on 'what you can do to somebody against their will' have changed. Zimmy and Spence, are you responsible for that disgusting statement? Does that statement say anything about you at all?

Didn't think so.

I think you could have quoted this sentence just as easily:And I think that all of us should just be focusing on how to do better and how to go forward.
But of course it doesn't fit your agenda on making anyone who is center or left, bad.
Here is the full question and answer
JUDY WOODRUFF, PBS NEWSHOUR: I assume you think that what happened with you was more serious than what happened with Senator — former Senator Al Franken.

He was driven from office, from the U.S. Senate. So, norms have changed. Do you think that’s a good thing?
FORMER PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON: Well, in general, I think it’s a good thing, yes.

I think it’s a good thing that we should all have higher standards. I think the norms have really changed in terms of, what you can do to somebody against their will, how much you can crowd their space, make them miserable at work.

You don’t have to physically assault somebody to make them, you know, uncomfortable at work or at home or in their other — just walking around. That, I think, is good.

I think that — I will be honest — the Franken case, for me, was a difficult case, a hard case. There may be things I don’t know. But I — maybe I’m just an old-fashioned person, but it seemed to me that there were 29 women on “Saturday Night Live” that put out a statement for him, and that the first and most fantastic story was called, I believe, into question.

Too late to wade into it now. I mean, I think it’s a grievous thing to take away from the people a decision they have made, especially when there is an election coming up again. But it’s done now.

And I think that all of us should just be focusing on how to do better and how to go forward.