PETE!!!

[scottw]

good news!....he's been located!!

[Pete F.]

Wow, on the one hand the Trump White House made a PowerPoint about how to end American democracy but on the other hand have you heard that Kamala Harris uses wired heaphones as a national security precaution and once bought a nice pot to cook with? Both sides.
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[Pete F.]

Whatever you were referring to doesn’t show on my phone.
But since you’re concerned about my opinion, Chris Wallace is quitting Fox News. He was the only honest one left there. And he was, by default, giving cover to the other Fox News hosts as they filled the other 23 hours a day with nonstop lies. Now they’ve lost that cover. Fox News can no longer pretend to be even vaguely real.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Whatever you were referring to doesn’t show on my phone.
But since you’re concerned about my opinion, Chris Wallace is quitting Fox News. He was the only honest one left there. And he was, by default, giving cover to the other Fox News hosts as they filled the other 23 hours a day with nonstop lies. Now they’ve lost that cover. Fox News can no longer pretend to be even vaguely real.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Whatever you were referring to doesn’t show on my phone.
But since you’re concerned about my opinion, Chris Wallace is quitting Fox News. He was the only honest one left there. And he was, by default, giving cover to the other Fox News hosts as they filled the other 23 hours a day with nonstop lies. Now they’ve lost that cover. Fox News can no longer pretend to be even vaguely real.
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right, he was very serious, which his why he’s going to CNN, where all the really serious journalists go.

it would be more serious if he went to the Babylon Bee.


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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

right, he was very serious, which his why he’s going to CNN, where all the really serious journalists go.

it would be more serious if he went to the Babylon Bee.


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pete can have him...we don't even need anyone in trade for that one ...

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Whatever you were referring to doesn’t show on my phone.

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it's the Reno 911 movie trailer...The Hunt for QANON....thought you might be excited that law enforcement is in hot pursuit...

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by scottw

it's the Reno 911 movie trailer...The Hunt for QANON....thought you might be excited that law enforcement is in hot pursuit...

Boy, that show was so damn funny when it first came out. Not ‘Strangers with Candy’ level, but close.
I’ll have to look for this version….

[Pete F.]

Every day, Fox News takes another step toward its destiny as The Tucker Carlson Channel, and in that future, there’s no room for journalists.
Pure Propaganda all the time
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Pure Propaganda all the time
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The irony in your making such a comment is comically delicious.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

The irony in your making such a comment is comically delicious.

They have successfully convinced you that none of the items below are true.

The Trump campaign eagerly and knowingly accepted overtures from the Russian government to provide dirt on Hillary Clinton.

Trump publicly asked the Russians to illegally steal and dump Clinton documents, and Russian intelligence promptly did exactly that.

The campaign and its associates had at least 100 contacts and probably more with assorted Russians, including (according to the Senate Intelligence Committee’s account) ones with ties to organized crime and Russian intelligence.

Trump’s campaign manager provided internal campaign materials to a business associate characterized by the Senate report and the U.S. Treasury Department as a Russian intelligence operative.

The campaign team, including Trump, was well aware of potential plans by Russia’s Wikileaks partner to dump stolen documents, kept close tabs on it, and tried to schedule and exploit that possibility.

Trump and his fixer Michael Cohen lied point-blank about Trump’s ongoing business dealings with the Russians.

Meanwhile, at no point did Trump and his people report Russia’s activities to U.S. law enforcement; instead, according to the Senate Intelligence Committee report, the campaign was “elated” by what it regarded as a “gift” from Wikileaks.

That the Trump campaign did all of those things and more is not seriously disputed.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

They have successfully convinced you that none of the items below are true.
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No, "They" did not convince me of those things. It's comical that you seem to think that those of us who have not been convinced by you are puppets. And that you, somehow, are not.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Every day, Fox News takes another step toward its destiny as The Tucker Carlson Channel, and in that future, there’s no room for journalists.
Pure Propaganda all the time
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I like what Trevor Noah said “If one person at your network has no integrity, that’s a problem. If nobody has integrity, that’s a company policy.”

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I like what Trevor Noah said “If one person at your network has no integrity, that’s a problem. If nobody has integrity, that’s a company policy.”

so CNN has multiple hosts and producers exposed as jerks and perverts.

The January 6th commission recently read texts to Meadows from multiple foxnews hosts, who were urging the trump administration to do what it could, to put a halt to the january 6 riot. It appears those hosts are opposed to riots, regardless of who the rioters voted for.

on msnbc and cnn, during the summer of love riots, the hosts denied and misreported the violence or encouraged it. those rioters were anti trump, so it’s ok when they rioted.

i’m sure there are nice people and jerks at every network.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so CNN has multiple hosts and producers exposed as jerks and perverts.what CNN hosts where exposed as perverts? I think Fox has had far more hosts fired for sexual assault/etc.

The January 6th commission recently read texts to Meadows from multiple foxnews hosts, who were urging the trump administration to do what it could, to put a halt to the january 6 riot. It appears those hosts are opposed to riots, regardless of who the rioters voted for. and those same hosts were at the same time lying and saying the insurrection wasn't a big deal

on msnbc and cnn, during the summer of love riots, the hosts denied and misreported the violence or encouraged it. those rioters were anti trump, so it’s ok when they rioted.

i’m sure there are nice people and jerks at every network.
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I agree there are jerks at every network but I believe you claimed CNN wasn't honest (or the hosts only read what they are told to read).

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

what CNN hosts where exposed as perverts?

A long time CNN producer was just arrested for some pretty sick stuff…plus

Last year, Jeffrey Toobin, CNN’s chief legal analyst, was suspended by The New Yorker for masturbating while on a Zoom call with colleagues. When Zucker found out about this grotesque display, CNN did not even suspend Toobin, but instead allowed him to take a requested leave of absence. Zucker then welcomed Toobin back to CNN just a few months later.

Even more problematic, another CNN prime time news anchor, Don Lemon, currently stands accused of sexually assaulting a younger man at a Hamptons bar a few years ago. The man alleges Lemon “put his hand down the front of his own shorts, and vigorously rubbed his genitalia, removed his hand” and then shoved his fingers in the alleged victim’s face and aggressively asked if he “like[d] p***y or d**ck.” In the aftermath of the Cuomo fallout, Lemon’s alleged victim described CNN as “a predator protecting machine…rife with predators and perverts.”
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I agree there are jerks at every network but I believe you claimed CNN wasn't honest (or the hosts only read what they are told to read).

"what CNN hosts where exposed as perverts? "

Cuomos status went from suspended to fired, because of accusations of sexual harassment.

And have you seen the lawsuit against Don Lemon? Not proven yet, but my God is it perverted,

Jeff Toobin as a huge pervert obviously, no ne except CNN will go near him.

And the well known producer arrested for having sex with girls as young as 7.

"I think Fox has had far more hosts fired for sexual assault/etc."

Maybe Fox can afford to fire them. CNN lets their garbage stick around.

"and those same hosts were at the same time lying and saying the insurrection wasn't a big deal"

Got video of fox hosts saying that?

Chris Cuomo said on air during the George Floyd riots, "show me where it says protests are supposed to be peaceful".

Foxnews has more than a few lying, partisan clowns for sure (Hannity is the most glaring). But from what I see, Fox has the only hosts that will criticize politicians on their side, and praise the other side for having good ideas.

[Jim in CT]

Wallace could be a big improvement for CNN, god knows they need some
honesty there. i’ll be curious to see if he remains as honest as he was at fox or if he just reads what they tell him
to read. i wouldn’t think the remaining CNN viewers have much appetite for anyone to the right of Nancy Pelosi.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i’ll be curious to see if he remains as honest as he was at fox or if he just reads what they tell him
to read.

You really, for a second, think Chris Wallace is going to just read what ever is put in front of him?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

You really, for a second, think Chris Wallace is going to just read what ever is put in front of him?

that’s what everyone else there does.

if he does what he did at fox, i’d think CNNs 12 remaining viewers will all hate him. No one who watches CNN wants to be challenged, they want their fur stroked by people who think exactly as they do. just like you do.

all they want to hear, is all
that you want to hear.

liberal=good, conservative=bad


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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

that’s what everyone else there does.

if he does what he did at fox, i’d think CNNs 12 remaining viewers will all hate him. No one who watches CNN wants to be challenged, they want their fur stroked by people who think exactly as they do. just like you do.

all they want to hear, is all
that you want to hear.

liberal=good, conservative=bad


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Just keep rationalizing your belief that you don’t really like Trump but people are victimizing him.
Because you believe that he is aligned with what you think conservative beliefs consist of.
He’s got a bridge he wants to sell you too as long as you’re in the buying mood, such a deal….
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Just keep rationalizing your belief that you don’t really like Trump but people are victimizing him.
Because you believe that he is aligned with what you think conservative beliefs consist of.
He’s got a bridge he wants to sell you too as long as you’re in the buying mood, such a deal….
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pete, here’s what liberals really struggle with:

two things can be true at the same time.

simultaneously, it can be true that (1) trump is morally repugnant, and at the same time, (2) he is being treated unfairly by the media.

Trump is an awful human being, but he implemented some terrific policies, and also had some utter failures.

Focusing on the negative and pretending the good things didn’t happen, is necessarily inaccurate and unfair.

i’m secure enough in my beliefs where i can happily admit the good
and bad. You cant.
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[Pete F.]

If you pay attention you’ll see that all these text messages that Congress read last night went to meadows & not trump, even junior’s, which is pretty much exactly how a mob boss would set it up to avoid leaving records tied directly to him.
It’s not that they don’t know how to text him, it’s that they KNOW not to text him.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If you pay attention you’ll see that all these text messages that Congress read last night went to meadows & not trump, even junior’s, which is pretty much exactly how a mob boss would set it up to avoid leaving records tied directly to him.
It’s not that they don’t know how to text him, it’s that they KNOW not to text him.
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meanwhile inflation is out of sight, Brown University did a study showing today’s toddlers are meaningfully behind normal averages for vocal and cognitive development, drug overdoses are way up…

but Trump!!!

and i have no problem throwing the book at trump and his puppets. anything to keep him from running again.

but you’d never say anything about the obvious Biden corruption where they got insanely rich by selling influence.

it’s only bad when republicans do it.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If you pay attention you’ll see that all these text messages that Congress read last night went to meadows & not trump, even junior’s, which is pretty much exactly how a mob boss would set it up to avoid leaving records tied directly to him.
It’s not that they don’t know how to text him, it’s that they KNOW not to text him.
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Shocking to hear the texts and even the use of the word Siege yet after the fact they all down play it as if it was no big deal.
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[wdmso]

Mark Meadows used his own cellphone, 2 personal Gmail accounts, and Signal for official White House business, Trump supporters live in separate universes when in comes to accountability. Man and party before country

But but Hilary had a email server Lol
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Mark Meadows used his own cellphone, 2 personal Gmail accounts, and Signal for official White House business, Trump supporters live in separate universes when in comes to accountability. Man and party before country

But but Hilary had a email server Lol
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she had a server in her basement which had classified material
on it, and she lied about it as those two always do. and she was very uncooperative about the whole
thing. it’s not a capital
offense but if trump had done the same thing your reaction would be very different.

throw the book at meadows, if he broke the law. is that not a fair response? or should
i call for his execution?

i’m sure you know all about servers and technology, lol.

at the time, john and tdf, i believe, who work with IT and who aren’t blind partisans ( like you), thought it was a pretty big deal
what she did.

but she has a D after her name so no big deal.

LOL.


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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

she had a server in her basement which had classified material
on it, and she lied about it as those two always do. and she was very uncooperative about the whole
thing. it’s not a capital
offense but if trump had done the same thing your reaction would be very different.

throw the book at meadows, if he broke the law. is that not a fair response? or should
i call for his execution?

i’m sure you know all about servers and technology, lol.

at the time, john and tdf, i believe, who work with IT and who aren’t blind partisans ( like you), thought it was a pretty big deal
what she did.

but she has a D after her name so no big deal.

LOL.


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As expected in Jim’s world all incidents and outrage are equal. Keeping the lie alive

Email server for Sec of state
Or potus and Chief of staff trying to overthrow the government on private phones and gmail accounts

Yep exactly the same keep up the good work
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

As expected in Jim’s world all incidents and outrage are equal. Keeping the lie alive

Email server for Sec of state
Or potus and Chief of staff trying to overthrow the government on private phones and gmail accounts

Yep exactly the same keep up the good work
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"As expected in Jim’s world all incidents and outrage are equal."

As expected, when confronted with a rational, fair argument, you claim that I said something that I never said. I have absolutely no idea the magnitude of the offense committed by each. I'm quite sure you don't either. But I know you'll laugh off what Hilary did, and act like anyone who is critical of her is an idiot.

As I said, if two non-partisan guys here, who both work in IT, say what she did was bad, that tells me something.

You'll let Rachael Maddow tell you whether or not she did anything wrong.

[Pete F.]

I rarely agree with “Liddle Marco”

“For years to come, there are many people on the right, in the media and voters at large that are going to be having to explain and justify how they fell into this trap of supporting Donald Trump.”

- Sen. Marco Rubio (R), 2016
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