PETE!!!

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Every day, Fox News takes another step toward its destiny as The Tucker Carlson Channel, and in that future, there’s no room for journalists.
Pure Propaganda all the time
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I like what Trevor Noah said “If one person at your network has no integrity, that’s a problem. If nobody has integrity, that’s a company policy.”

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I like what Trevor Noah said “If one person at your network has no integrity, that’s a problem. If nobody has integrity, that’s a company policy.”

so CNN has multiple hosts and producers exposed as jerks and perverts.

The January 6th commission recently read texts to Meadows from multiple foxnews hosts, who were urging the trump administration to do what it could, to put a halt to the january 6 riot. It appears those hosts are opposed to riots, regardless of who the rioters voted for.

on msnbc and cnn, during the summer of love riots, the hosts denied and misreported the violence or encouraged it. those rioters were anti trump, so it’s ok when they rioted.

i’m sure there are nice people and jerks at every network.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so CNN has multiple hosts and producers exposed as jerks and perverts.what CNN hosts where exposed as perverts? I think Fox has had far more hosts fired for sexual assault/etc.

The January 6th commission recently read texts to Meadows from multiple foxnews hosts, who were urging the trump administration to do what it could, to put a halt to the january 6 riot. It appears those hosts are opposed to riots, regardless of who the rioters voted for. and those same hosts were at the same time lying and saying the insurrection wasn't a big deal

on msnbc and cnn, during the summer of love riots, the hosts denied and misreported the violence or encouraged it. those rioters were anti trump, so it’s ok when they rioted.

i’m sure there are nice people and jerks at every network.
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I agree there are jerks at every network but I believe you claimed CNN wasn't honest (or the hosts only read what they are told to read).

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

what CNN hosts where exposed as perverts?

A long time CNN producer was just arrested for some pretty sick stuff…plus

Last year, Jeffrey Toobin, CNN’s chief legal analyst, was suspended by The New Yorker for masturbating while on a Zoom call with colleagues. When Zucker found out about this grotesque display, CNN did not even suspend Toobin, but instead allowed him to take a requested leave of absence. Zucker then welcomed Toobin back to CNN just a few months later.

Even more problematic, another CNN prime time news anchor, Don Lemon, currently stands accused of sexually assaulting a younger man at a Hamptons bar a few years ago. The man alleges Lemon “put his hand down the front of his own shorts, and vigorously rubbed his genitalia, removed his hand” and then shoved his fingers in the alleged victim’s face and aggressively asked if he “like[d] p***y or d**ck.” In the aftermath of the Cuomo fallout, Lemon’s alleged victim described CNN as “a predator protecting machine…rife with predators and perverts.”
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

A long time CNN producer was just arrested for some pretty sick stuff…pluswhat the heck is a producer? and he was fired as soon as they found out about it.

Last year, Jeffrey Toobin, CNN’s chief legal analyst, was suspended by The New Yorker for masturbating while on a Zoom call with colleagues. When Zucker found out about this grotesque display, CNN did not even suspend Toobin, but instead allowed him to take a requested leave of absence. Zucker then welcomed Toobin back to CNN just a few months later.

Even more problematic, another CNN prime time news anchor, Don Lemon, currently stands accused of sexually assaulting a younger man at a Hamptons bar a few years ago. The man alleges Lemon “put his hand down the front of his own shorts, and vigorously rubbed his genitalia, removed his hand” and then shoved his fingers in the alleged victim’s face and aggressively asked if he “like[d] p***y or d**ck.” In the aftermath of the Cuomo fallout, Lemon’s alleged victim described CNN as “a predator protecting machine…rife with predators and perverts.”
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You forgot to comment on the 2nd half of the quote - a quick search shows Fox had more hosts than CNN in trouble - not that I think what a host does sexually reflects on the network.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

You forgot to comment on the 2nd half of the quote - a quick search shows Fox had more hosts than CNN in trouble - not that I think what a host does sexually reflects on the network.

"he was fired as soon as they found out about it."

Chris Cuomo, Don Lemon, and Jeff Toobin were on air at CNN long after there were some very strange accusations made, in Toobins case we know what happened.

Paul, how many people are on the air in places other than CNN, who have masturbated in front of coworkers, during work Zoom calls?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

not that I think what a host does sexually reflects on the network.

The host are typically lecturing everyone on behalf of the network so when you find out they are assaulting victims. It reflects on the network
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I agree there are jerks at every network but I believe you claimed CNN wasn't honest (or the hosts only read what they are told to read).

"what CNN hosts where exposed as perverts? "

Cuomos status went from suspended to fired, because of accusations of sexual harassment.

And have you seen the lawsuit against Don Lemon? Not proven yet, but my God is it perverted,

Jeff Toobin as a huge pervert obviously, no ne except CNN will go near him.

And the well known producer arrested for having sex with girls as young as 7.

"I think Fox has had far more hosts fired for sexual assault/etc."

Maybe Fox can afford to fire them. CNN lets their garbage stick around.

"and those same hosts were at the same time lying and saying the insurrection wasn't a big deal"

Got video of fox hosts saying that?

Chris Cuomo said on air during the George Floyd riots, "show me where it says protests are supposed to be peaceful".

Foxnews has more than a few lying, partisan clowns for sure (Hannity is the most glaring). But from what I see, Fox has the only hosts that will criticize politicians on their side, and praise the other side for having good ideas.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"what CNN hosts where exposed as perverts? "

Cuomos status went from suspended to fired, because of accusations of sexual harassment.

And have you seen the lawsuit against Don Lemon? Not proven yet, but my God is it perverted,

Jeff Toobin as a huge pervert obviously, no ne except CNN will go near him.

And the well known producer arrested for having sex with girls as young as 7.

"I think Fox has had far more hosts fired for sexual assault/etc."

Maybe Fox can afford to fire them. CNN lets their garbage stick around.

"and those same hosts were at the same time lying and saying the insurrection wasn't a big deal"

Got video of fox hosts saying that?
Yes, there was lots of video so you can look up and see how dishonest they are
Chris Cuomo said on air during the George Floyd riots, "show me where it says protests are supposed to be peaceful".

Foxnews has more than a few lying, partisan clowns for sure (Hannity is the most glaring). But from what I see, Fox has the only hosts that will criticize politicians on their side, and praise the other side for having good ideas.

With the recent people leaving Fox, they have no one who doesn't deviate from the company line. And look up the videos of the hosts lying at the same time as they were sending emails to Meadows.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

With the recent people leaving Fox, they have no one who doesn't deviate from the company line. And look up the videos of the hosts lying at the same time as they were sending emails to Meadows.

Tucker Carlson spent a lot of
time last week trashing mitch mcconnell and lindsay graham. he’s their 8pm anchor. same with brett baier.

what hosts at cnn and msnbc routinely disagree with powerful liberals? and criticizing joe manchin doesn’t count.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

With the recent people leaving Fox, they have no one who doesn't deviate from the company line.

so they are just like cnn and msnbc now....seems fair and balanced

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Got video of fox hosts saying that?

No Video but:

Text messages released by the January 6 House select committee on Monday showed that Fox News hosts were among those urging the former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows to get then-President Donald Trump to call off his supporters as they swarmed the Capitol.

Their efforts then are in stark contrast with the message they gave to their viewers on the day of the riot.

Sean Hannity, a longtime friend and confidant to Trump, texted Meadows in a bid to get Trump to call off his supporters.

"Can he make a statement, Ask people to leave the Capitol," Hannity's message read.

—Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) December 14, 2021
Laura Ingraham, a network host and hardline Trump ally, echoed the request.

"Mark, the president needs to tell people in the Capitol to go home. This is hurting all of us. He is destroying his legacy," she texted Meadows.

—Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) December 14, 2021
And Brian Kilmeade, a host of "Fox & Friends," texted: "Please, get him on TV. Destroying everything you have accomplished."

The hosts, clearly dismayed, all gave the same impression: Trump had the power to stop the riot but did not use it.

But as the three went on air that night, their focus was on shifting the blame away from Trump and his supporters.

All three condemned the violence but played up baseless theories that the damage done was mainly the fault of left-wing groups.

Ingraham used her January 6 show to argue that the rioters didn't look like Trump supporters.

"I have never seen Trump rally attendees wearing helmets — black helmets, brown helmets, black backpacks — the uniforms that you saw in some of these crowd shots," she said. "Have you ever seen them wearing, as Chris said, those knee pads and all of the pads on their elbows?

"I've been to a lot of these rallies. I know you, you both have covered them. I have never seen that before. Ever."

Kilmeade in an interview on Fox News that evening expressed skepticism that Trump supporters were behind the violence.

"I do not know Trump supporters that have ever demonstrated violence that I know of in a big situation," he said.

And Hannity on his radio show that night pushed the conspiracy theory that antifa, the loose anti-fascist movement, had infiltrated the protests.

On his TV show, he suggested that "bad actors" may have been behind the chaos.

"We also knew that there's also bad actors that will infiltrate large crowds," he said during his opening segment that night.

A Fox News spokesperson did not immediately reply to Insider's request for comment.

Several of the network's hosts in the wake of the riot continued to push conspiracy theories about who was behind the violence and sought to absolve Trump of blame.

The top-rated host Tucker Carlson in a recent documentary groundlessly claimed that law enforcement had instigated the violence on January 6 as part of a bid to discredit Trump supporters.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

No Video but:

Text messages released by the January 6 House select committee on Monday showed that Fox News hosts were among those urging the former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows to get then-President Donald Trump to call off his supporters as they swarmed the Capitol.

Their efforts then are in stark contrast with the message they gave to their viewers on the day of the riot.

Sean Hannity, a longtime friend and confidant to Trump, texted Meadows in a bid to get Trump to call off his supporters.

"Can he make a statement, Ask people to leave the Capitol," Hannity's message read.

—Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) December 14, 2021
Laura Ingraham, a network host and hardline Trump ally, echoed the request.

"Mark, the president needs to tell people in the Capitol to go home. This is hurting all of us. He is destroying his legacy," she texted Meadows.

—Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) December 14, 2021
And Brian Kilmeade, a host of "Fox & Friends," texted: "Please, get him on TV. Destroying everything you have accomplished."

The hosts, clearly dismayed, all gave the same impression: Trump had the power to stop the riot but did not use it.

But as the three went on air that night, their focus was on shifting the blame away from Trump and his supporters.

All three condemned the violence but played up baseless theories that the damage done was mainly the fault of left-wing groups.

Ingraham used her January 6 show to argue that the rioters didn't look like Trump supporters.

"I have never seen Trump rally attendees wearing helmets — black helmets, brown helmets, black backpacks — the uniforms that you saw in some of these crowd shots," she said. "Have you ever seen them wearing, as Chris said, those knee pads and all of the pads on their elbows?

"I've been to a lot of these rallies. I know you, you both have covered them. I have never seen that before. Ever."

Kilmeade in an interview on Fox News that evening expressed skepticism that Trump supporters were behind the violence.

"I do not know Trump supporters that have ever demonstrated violence that I know of in a big situation," he said.

And Hannity on his radio show that night pushed the conspiracy theory that antifa, the loose anti-fascist movement, had infiltrated the protests.

On his TV show, he suggested that "bad actors" may have been behind the chaos.

"We also knew that there's also bad actors that will infiltrate large crowds," he said during his opening segment that night.

A Fox News spokesperson did not immediately reply to Insider's request for comment.

Several of the network's hosts in the wake of the riot continued to push conspiracy theories about who was behind the violence and sought to absolve Trump of blame.

The top-rated host Tucker Carlson in a recent documentary groundlessly claimed that law enforcement had instigated the violence on January 6 as part of a bid to discredit Trump supporters.

trump supporters had never engaged in violent riots before that day. they were correct in saying so. before january 6, politically motivated violence was just about always done by liberals. we can’t say that anymore, but we could in january 6th.

if someone said in that day that teump needs to try to get them to stop, and also says that trump supporters had never before acted this way on anything close to that scale, how is that wrong?

Hannity his a clown. i don’t watch Ingraham or Kilmeade. but there’s nothing all that wrong with what your post, claims they did.
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