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12-24-2021, 08:29 AM
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Are parents opposed to reading in general? or is this inappropriate?
A teacher at a school board meeting in Round Rock texas, mocked parents as being illiterate religious freaks, for opposing a few books that were in the middle school.
One of the books is called Gender Queer: A Memoir.
here’s a link to what’s in there, scroll down a bit, you’ll see some stuff i dont think is appropriate for any public middle school. and i like reading. my oldest was 11 when he started middle school.
can’t post pictures on my phone, but the link will bring you to some disgusting stuff.
No one is talking about banning worthwhile literature. this is disgusting smut.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theiowa...ss-iowa/%3famp
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12-24-2021, 09:25 AM
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Jim
You’re as bad as Pete & a few others with the non stop post.
It’s Christmas
Give it a #^&#^&#^&#^&ing brake for a few days at least or even better till January 2nd.
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12-24-2021, 09:35 AM
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or you can not read it if you don’t want.
merry xmas to you and family as well!!
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12-24-2021, 09:43 AM
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About 4% of the population identifies as LGBTQ and some estimates are double that.
How many parents could have an open discussion with their child about sexuality, especially if the child were one of the 4%?
Here’s some more books that some think should be banned.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/enter...ss/5758877001/
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12-24-2021, 10:10 AM
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pete i have no issue discussing sexuality appropriately.
did you look at the illustrations in the book? boys blowing each other? in a middle school?
it’s pornography. there’s no argument to be made, that it’s not pornography.
merry xmas pete.
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12-24-2021, 12:49 PM
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Same book was in SC High school I don’t think it’s inappropriate in high school setting it’s a book not part of any class or suggested reading.
The book is a safer way to deal with the issues in the book then what these same kids can find on their phones which these outraged parents seem to completely over look
At Jr high and below absolutely inappropriate but haven’t seen where that’s been the case
But this isn’t about protecting children no kid is going to pick up the book and become gay or Transgender, it’s just more of the same attacking the whole concept that Transgender kids exist , and removing a resource that’s safer than the internet and safer than their parents who may not be receptive that their kid is gay or possibly Transgender ..
Not to long ago kids just looked at moms Victoria secret catalogs to rub one out
Was that pornography…. To some I am sure it was
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12-24-2021, 02:15 PM
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But this isn’t about protecting children no kid is going to pick up the book and become gay or Transgender, it’s just more of the same attacking the whole concept that Transgender kids exist , and removing a resource that’s safer than the internet and safer than their parents who may not be receptive that their kid is gay or possibly Transgender ..
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS
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12-28-2021, 08:16 PM
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and removing a resource
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It’s a “resource”🤣
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12-24-2021, 12:53 PM
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Here’s one if it’s a library book let’s see who checked it out ! Then the parents can find them, Or even see if it’s been looked at by a kid at all ..
More spoon fed outrage …. Don’t ask what’s in your Chinese food
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12-26-2021, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Here’s one if it’s a library book let’s see who checked it out ! Then the parents can find them, Or even see if it’s been looked at by a kid at all ..
More spoon fed outrage …. Don’t ask what’s in your Chinese food
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pornography. doesn’t. belong. in. public.. school.
sorry if that’s going too fast for you. i don’t want 11 year olds thinking about going down on each other.
if we can’t agree on this, there’s nothing that unites us, and we should split into two countries.
fnhie buden said this book was trash. you’d all agree. but you must always reflexively disagree with everything from the right.
stop buying pornography, buy more school
supplies. teachers are always complaining about having g to but classroom supplies.
divert money from pornography to supplies.
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12-28-2021, 05:36 PM
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I don’t see any references to this book being in middle schools, just high schools. Even the publisher has an age rating of 15 which seems appropriate.
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12-28-2021, 05:59 PM
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I don’t see any references to this book being in middle schools, just high schools. Even the publisher has an age rating of 15 which seems appropriate.
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illustrations of boys with their wangs deep down each others throats, is ok with you in a public school
it has zero business in any public school.
library? it’s not pornography?
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12-28-2021, 06:09 PM
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it’s not pornography?
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Not by most definions.
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12-28-2021, 06:20 PM
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Not by most definions.
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which definitions wouldn’t include illustrations of young men with their wangs in each others mouths?
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12-28-2021, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
illustrations of boys with their wangs deep down each others throats, is ok with you in a public school
it has zero business in any public school.
library? it’s not pornography?
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It’s on the Catholic priests best seller list.
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12-28-2021, 06:12 PM
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It’s on the Catholic priests best seller list.
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good one!
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12-28-2021, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
illustrations of boys with their wangs deep down each others throats, is ok with you in a public school
it has zero business in any public school.
library? it’s not pornography?
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1 book VS every kid in a public has a phone that connects to the internet ...
which is more likely to be shown to classmates
A a poorly drawn cartoon of a BJ or a Gay porn video on a phone!
like I said fake outrage because being against teachers and school boards is the latest conservative soup of the day 
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12-28-2021, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
1 book VS every kid in a public has a phone that connects to the internet ...
which is more likely to be shown to classmates
A a poorly drawn cartoon of a BJ or a Gay porn video on a phone!
like I said fake outrage because being against teachers and school boards is the latest conservative soup of the day 
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i’m not saying that book is the worst thing that ever existed. you’re saying because it’s not the worst, therefore it’s ok.
ok.
using that logic, hitler and mao were worse than Trump, so quit your “fake outrage” over trump.
sounds stupid,, doesn’t it?
school should be a safe place for kids, a place to be away from all the crap they see elsewhere.
republicans cannot have a position that’s actually principled, right? only liberals can do that. right?
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12-28-2021, 11:04 PM
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school should be a safe place for kids, a place to be away from all the crap they see elsewhere.
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Perhaps for some teens navigating an LGBQT journey in life school is a safer place than home.
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12-28-2021, 11:21 PM
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i’m not saying that book is the worst thing that ever existed. you’re saying because it’s not the worst, therefore it’s ok.
ok.
using that logic, hitler and mao were worse than Trump, so quit your “fake outrage” over trump.
sounds stupid,, doesn’t it?
school should be a safe place for kids, a place to be away from all the crap they see elsewhere.
republicans cannot have a position that’s actually principled, right? only liberals can do that. right?
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"Conservatives" are stuck in the old notion that school is for teaching reading, writing, and arithmetic, basics in the early years progressing to advanced versions and civics in order to prepare their children for success in their adult years as well to prepare them for the knowledge and moral based citizenship that puts our republic on solid ground.
Progressives have an advanced vision that sees K-12 as a training ground to prepare the children for the infinite variety of people and genders and experiences required to civilly acculturate them into the truly progressive international world of today and tomorrow. "illustrations of young men with their wangs in each others mouths" is but a small sample of the world they will grow into. They need to be prepared not only in how to participate, but to be cleansed from destructive negative judgments of the actual, beautiful world that exists in which they can immerse themselves rather than being extremist, nationalistic, (white)supremacist dangers to a peaceful well functioning world.
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12-29-2021, 11:59 AM
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"Conservatives" are stuck in the old notion that school is for teaching reading, writing, and arithmetic, basics in the early years progressing to advanced versions and civics in order to prepare their children for success in their adult years as well to prepare them for the knowledge and moral based citizenship that puts our republic on solid ground.
Progressives have an advanced vision that sees K-12 as a training ground to prepare the children for the infinite variety of people and genders and experiences required to civilly acculturate them into the truly progressive international world of today and tomorrow. "illustrations of young men with their wangs in each others mouths" is but a small sample of the world they will grow into. They need to be prepared not only in how to participate, but to be cleansed from destructive negative judgments of the actual, beautiful world that exists in which they can immerse themselves rather than being extremist, nationalistic, (white)supremacist dangers to a peaceful well functioning world.
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that’s what it is, which his why my three are in catholic school
now
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12-29-2021, 12:30 PM
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So where are kids most likely to find this sort of stuff, the library, the internet or a streaming service.
I would be surprised if the library is even a small part.
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12-29-2021, 12:49 PM
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So where are kids most likely to find this sort of stuff, the library, the internet or a streaming service.
I would be surprised if the library is even a small part.
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probably more likely online. Doesn't mean we don't address pornography thats in the schools.
Are you more likely to die of heart disease or covid? Answer - heart disease. That doesn't mean you don't get the covid vaccine, right?
You guys all do the same exact thing. You're saying that because this isn't the single most serious threat that kids face, therefore it's not worth discussing.
It's absurd logic.
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12-29-2021, 01:01 PM
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So where are kids most likely to find this sort of stuff, the library, the internet or a streaming service.
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this is irrelevant....kids can get pot outside of school, should we offer it with their lunches? call it a resource?
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12-29-2021, 07:07 PM
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this is irrelevant....kids can get pot outside of school, should we offer it with their lunches? call it a resource?
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Irrelevant?
You choose to fall in line on the sky screaming about something that is insignificant in the big picture.
You think that suicide rates among lgbtq youth are what?
Not high enough?
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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12-29-2021, 07:17 PM
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Irrelevant?
You choose to fall in line on the sky screaming about something that is insignificant in the big picture.
You think that suicide rates among lgbtq youth are what?
Not high enough?
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Just pretend they don’t exist and lalalalalalala the problem will go away.
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12-29-2021, 07:42 PM
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Irrelevant?
You choose to fall in line on the sky screaming about something that is insignificant in the big picture.
You think that suicide rates among lgbtq youth are what?
Not high enough?
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“something that insignificant in the big picture.”
Sure, sure, tell that to all the elected democrats in Va. this was the issue.
it’s got nothing to do with homophobia. i wouldn’t want illustrations of heterosexuals doing 69 either.
i accept them and want them
to thrive. but their intimate acts doesn’t need to be shoved in kids faces for them to feel validated.
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12-29-2021, 07:55 PM
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“something that insignificant in the big picture.”
Sure, sure, tell that to all the elected democrats in Va. this was the issue.
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That’s the goal, find a straw man, make it an issue, the followers eat it up. Victimhood is easy to sell.
Defund, CRT, late term abortion, voter fraud
Just keep believing
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Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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01-02-2022, 08:02 PM
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You think that suicide rates among lgbtq youth are what?
Not high enough?
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Giving them porn will probably help
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01-02-2022, 08:10 PM
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Giving them porn will probably help
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i’m fine for making sure those kids feel safe in school. but that has nothing to do with stocking the shelves with pornography. i want those people to have rich lives, but i don’t want to see disgusting pictures of their intimate acts. that’s for them
to do in private, not in public.
this is the dilemma. it’s not enough for liberals that those people are tolerated. we’re all supposed to go to their parades and hold
signs and stare at their pornography. we’re supposed to abandon our deeply held religious beliefs and participate in their intimacy. .
no thanks. this is why bedrooms have doors.
funny, pete and spence didn’t complain a syllable when obama
and hilary said they were adamantly opposed to gay marriage for religious reasons. but when conservatives say the same exact thing, then it’s bigotry.
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