If I Was Officer Crowley........ - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

BigFish · 08-03-2009, 06:50 AM

I would not have entertained all this post arrest crap that is going on!! No matter how you slice it up, it has been made into a racial profiling/racial situation and it has been proven that it in fact was not!! Crowley was simply doing his job and I feel he should not have bowed down to all this crap with a beer at the White House and how this is now being called a "teaching opportunity"!!! What a load of crap!! It is my belief that Gates is about as racist as you get and he continues to beat his own drum and he sure seems to enjoy the spotlight in my opinion!! The guy got arrested for being belligerent to the officers and now he sure is making the most of his "15 minutes"!!! When will it go away!!!

These folks like Gates want racism to go away, then they need to stop perpetuating it!!!

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Slipknot · 08-03-2009, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

These folks like Gates want racism to go away, then they need to stop perpetuating it!!!

yep

I guess he is so smart , he can't admit he was wrong.

A teaching moment huh, I hope the teacher was taught.

Dragging this out only helps Gates sell books

BigFish · 08-03-2009, 08:07 AM

B-I-N-G-O!

The Dad Fisherman · 08-03-2009, 08:14 AM

Every time Gates opens his mouth he's sounding more and more like a Pompous Ass.....Did you see the news this morning of his Book Signing on the Vineyard...cracking jokes about the whole situation. Idiot

And I would bet this situation actually brings a lot more respect to the Cambridge Police Department. Crowley did the right thing by going, being cordial, and moving on.

on the Flip side..if the POTUS asks you to the White House for a beer....you go. As much as I hated the Last Dumb-ass in Chief, If he asked me to the White House for a beer I would go and pay the proper respect to the position....

BigFish · 08-03-2009, 08:45 AM

I do not pander.....I would have expected Gates to digress and apologize for being the one at fault before I accepted the invitation. Politicians are not high on my list of folks I want to have a beer with these days.

Raven · 08-03-2009, 08:57 AM

if he was so smart why doesn't he know that doors swell in times of 100% humidity.....

and.....! he didn't have to fix the door himself.

courtesy to others ....especially Police officers is a way of showing how intelligent you are....

which means in reality.... he's not very intelligent

The Dad Fisherman · 08-03-2009, 09:01 AM

I didn't expect anybody to apologize......they did exactly what I figured would happen......one big Non-Event.

But in the aftermath, Crowley has definitely come out as the better man and Gates has come out looking like a pompous ass trying to sell books.

From his inability to know what a Domestic beer is

to his making light about the whole thing for the cameras.....

Offshore24 · 08-03-2009, 09:29 AM

Crowley's superiors are probably pushing him into this whole post "event" entertainment. Who'd want to go throught this spotlight?

The cops came to my house one day when I was playing hooky from work. Seems my neighbor witnessed a strange vehicle with an even stranger driver pull into my driveway and enter my house when everyone was supposed to be out. My dogs are going nuts upstairs and the doorbell's ringing. I come upstairs and there's a cop at the door, hand on his gun, asking if I'd open the door. I asked him wha'ts up and he asks again if I'd open the door. I look over his shoulder and there are officers in the lawn and cruisiers in the steet. I figure I'll open the door and when I do he starts backing up and telling me to do something about the 75lb yellow lab that's trying to get out the door first. I tell the dog to shut-up, sit, stay, and I go out. After a few minutes of questions and ID's they go away and I get a laugh out of it. Not network news, no headlines, just another day in the life of your average american. So did I miss out on my 15 minutes?????????

BigFish · 08-03-2009, 09:59 AM

Not even an invitation to the Statehouse from the useless excuse for a Governor we have????

Raven · 08-03-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I didn't expect anybody to apologize......they did exactly what I figured would happen......one big Non-Event.

The best thing i saw come out of it....

Was that president Obama drank a dark beer

Budlight is dog piss

spence · 08-03-2009, 10:47 AM

A highly esteemed professor is just home from a long trip (from China no less) and has a cop in his own home asking for ID.

And you're surprised that he wasn't in a good mood?

Not saying he was in the right, but geeze...

If the same thing happened here my wife would have had the cop in a headlock.

And the same professor is writing a book on race and he has the audacity to use the event for publicity?

To think...

-spence

BigFish · 08-03-2009, 11:07 AM

Spence.....it was reported as a break-in and the officer needed to identify the person or persons......Gates should have been happy a neighbor saw something and called 911......if it had been a burglar Gates might have lost something and then been pissed that nobody saw anything!!!!

Raven · 08-03-2009, 11:09 AM

that he was very jet lagged

a trip to china and back .... is a long one

then his front door wouldn't open

his last hurdle... and he was extremely frustrated...
not being able to open it....

But that being said....

all he had to do was say: Hello Officer
i live here and have just now returned from China...

I.d ? sure ! but it'll take me a few minutes to find it

please come in... But Nooooooooooo he had
to go off on the guy....

so he deserved what he got for being belligerent !

The Dad Fisherman · 08-03-2009, 11:10 AM

No matter What Kind of mood I'm in or how pissed off at the world I am......When I get pulled over or a cop wants to talk to me I check the attitude at the door....

I'd be willing to bet anything That even as heated as things got Crowley still referred to Gates as sir.....and I'd bet Gates didn't return the favor.

BigFish · 08-03-2009, 11:13 AM

I bet Gates "acted stupidly"!

FishermanTim · 08-03-2009, 11:19 AM

And to top it off, the woman that called in the 911 call was being dragged though the mud ONLY because the "nutty professor" was having a bad day and the police wanted to cover their a$$es!

As for Mr. Crowley, I have it on good authority that he did falsify a portion of his report regarding the "event". He claimed that he had spoken to this woman when in fact he NEVER spoke to her.

She had to force the police to release the 911 tapes to prove her innocence, yet the police and the "whacky professor" were believed without a shred of proof.

Needless to say, they have every right to nail the city of Cambridge for slander and defamation of character, not to mention subjecting her family to threatening phone calls. I hope the mayor has deep pockets!

Raven · 08-03-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

No matter What Kind of mood I'm in or how pissed off at the world I am......When I get pulled over or a cop wants to talk to me I check the attitude at the door....

I'd be willing to bet anything That even as heated as things got Crowley still referred to Gates as sir.....and I'd bet Gates didn't return the favor.

no ............... he referred to him as Massa

Slipknot · 08-03-2009, 12:15 PM

the report

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...092gates1.html

BigFish · 08-03-2009, 12:38 PM

I had not read the report before.....man I certainly would not have entertained the thought of having a beer with that jack-ass!!!

Raven · 08-03-2009, 01:00 PM

i'll speak to your Mama outside....

what a mouth !

he had many opportunities it seems

to check his attitude....

he chose not to be civil....

and he's the one who acted stupidly according to the report....not the officer

thanks for posting that Slipknot...

Raven · 08-03-2009, 02:15 PM

for Obama to instantly side with GATES without any real knowledge of what transpired....

what does that make him ?

I'll leave that up to you......to decide

it begins with R

spence · 08-03-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven

for Obama to instantly side with GATES without any real knowledge of what transpired....

what does that make him ?

I'll leave that up to you......to decide

it begins with R

No, it really doesn't.

Obama was friends with Gates from his time at Harvard and understood well his position in the race debate as well as his academic position. It's quite reasonable to think that Obama was given poor early information, as the media got the first reports wrong, and made a comment based on emotion for an old friend.

This isn't to say Obama is without fault, certainly as US President he should have been more measured.

-spence

Swimmer · 08-03-2009, 07:06 PM

It a lot of poop over a non-event, non-teaching moment.

FishermanTim · 08-04-2009, 10:40 AM

I stand by my earlier post - Give me the facts, not BS.

Raven · 08-04-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

No, it really doesn't.

Obama was friends with Gates from his time at Harvard and understood well his position in the race debate as well as his academic position. It's quite reasonable to think that Obama was given poor early information, as the media got the first reports wrong, and made a comment based on emotion for an old friend.

This isn't to say Obama is without fault, certainly as US President he should have been more measured.

-spence

i was unaware that Obama was a personal friend of Gates at the time he made his statement of stupidly....

it's no wonder that Gates felt so empowered to mouth off.

FishermanTim: all the facts have been provided via the arrest report link.

FishermanTim · 08-04-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven

....FishermanTim: all the facts have been provided via the arrest report link.

Keep in mind, I am friends with the woman that called in the 911 call.
She NEVER spoke to Officer Crowley, yet he stated in his report that he had spoken with her at the scene. It was implied thru this report that she was the one that initiated the racial overtones of the call, when in fact she only responded to the dispatchers inquiry. She was the one that pushed to have the 911 tape released to the public. The police didn't want to do it (probably because it would exonerate her and put the blame back on the 2 main characters in this idiotic scenario: the cop and the professor).

Now the "nutty" professor is claiming that he's been receiving threats? Boy isn't it convenient that he remembered this just in time for his book signing?
My friend (and her family) had already been receiving their share of threats and ridicule, but where the hell was her justice?
I hope she goes through and sues all those responsible for the libel, slander and threats she has endured during this ordeal.
That will be a "teaching experience" for those fools!

BigFish · 08-04-2009, 11:05 AM

FT....why would anybody threaten the woman that called in the 911???

Also curious....why would her name be released as the caller??? Is that public knowledge???

FishermanTim · 08-04-2009, 11:14 AM

There are always those "simpletons" that believe everything they hear, without knowing if it's factual or opinion or complete farce.
When the story first broke, the reports claimed that SHE had identified the suspects as black. That just added more fuel to the fire, even though none of the facts had even been stated!
She had been getting a number of "I know where you live!" calls, which had her frightened, fearing for her life.

Keep in mind that all she did was "the right thing in that situation"!
She didn't go looking for her 15 minutes of fame like officer Crowley or Mr. Gates. She didn't hang around looking to be praised for her actions, she went on about her business.
It's funny that she is still the ONLY person in this idiotic event that would like to get her life back to normal BUT CAN'T!!!
The others could care less because they are soaking up all the fame they can.

Raven · 08-04-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

FT....why would anybody threaten the woman that called in the 911???

Also curious....why would her name be released as the caller??? Is that public knowledge???

for being a racist of course.... Obama's trying to prevent a bigger problem... of Riots... and looking to difuse the situation...

people are at their breaking point.... it's at a flash point
like texas brushland is.....right now.

she appeared on TV .....her name was plastered all over the media...

FishermanTim · 08-04-2009, 11:51 AM

For the record, her name was LEAKED to the press by the Cambridge police. The POLICE reported that she racially profiled the suspects. She only came forward AFTER the media had released her name.
If she hadn't come forward and FORCED the police to release the
911 tapes SHE would be probably defending herself against some trumped up civil charge.
Isn't funny that once she was able to have the 911 call played on the air the media stopped hounding her and treating her like a social pariah?

Maybe when she sues all those that helped and allowed the libel, slander of her charatcer and threats to her person, then she'll have her 15 minutes of fame?

So let me recap again:
She is not a racist. Never had been.
She did not report any racially profiled 911 call.
She only answered the question the 911 dispatcher asked her about the ethnicity of the suspected persons.
She NEVER spoke with Officer Crowley.
She did not seek the media, the media hunted her down.
She came forward only after having her name and character slandered in the media and the public.
She had received threats to her person.

Any other questions?