If I Was Officer Crowley........

[Raven]

Originally Posted by spence

No, it really doesn't.

Obama was friends with Gates from his time at Harvard and understood well his position in the race debate as well as his academic position. It's quite reasonable to think that Obama was given poor early information, as the media got the first reports wrong, and made a comment based on emotion for an old friend.

This isn't to say Obama is without fault, certainly as US President he should have been more measured.

-spence

i was unaware that Obama was a personal friend of Gates at the time he made his statement of stupidly....

it's no wonder that Gates felt so empowered to mouth off.

FishermanTim: all the facts have been provided via the arrest report link.

[FishermanTim]

Originally Posted by Raven

....FishermanTim: all the facts have been provided via the arrest report link.

Keep in mind, I am friends with the woman that called in the 911 call.
She NEVER spoke to Officer Crowley, yet he stated in his report that he had spoken with her at the scene. It was implied thru this report that she was the one that initiated the racial overtones of the call, when in fact she only responded to the dispatchers inquiry. She was the one that pushed to have the 911 tape released to the public. The police didn't want to do it (probably because it would exonerate her and put the blame back on the 2 main characters in this idiotic scenario: the cop and the professor).

Now the "nutty" professor is claiming that he's been receiving threats? Boy isn't it convenient that he remembered this just in time for his book signing?
My friend (and her family) had already been receiving their share of threats and ridicule, but where the hell was her justice?
I hope she goes through and sues all those responsible for the libel, slander and threats she has endured during this ordeal.
That will be a "teaching experience" for those fools!

[BigFish]

FT....why would anybody threaten the woman that called in the 911???

Also curious....why would her name be released as the caller??? Is that public knowledge???

[FishermanTim]

There are always those "simpletons" that believe everything they hear, without knowing if it's factual or opinion or complete farce.
When the story first broke, the reports claimed that SHE had identified the suspects as black. That just added more fuel to the fire, even though none of the facts had even been stated!
She had been getting a number of "I know where you live!" calls, which had her frightened, fearing for her life.

Keep in mind that all she did was "the right thing in that situation"!
She didn't go looking for her 15 minutes of fame like officer Crowley or Mr. Gates. She didn't hang around looking to be praised for her actions, she went on about her business.
It's funny that she is still the ONLY person in this idiotic event that would like to get her life back to normal BUT CAN'T!!!
The others could care less because they are soaking up all the fame they can.

[Raven]

Originally Posted by BigFish

FT....why would anybody threaten the woman that called in the 911???

Also curious....why would her name be released as the caller??? Is that public knowledge???

for being a racist of course.... Obama's trying to prevent a bigger problem... of Riots... and looking to difuse the situation...

people are at their breaking point.... it's at a flash point
like texas brushland is.....right now.

she appeared on TV .....her name was plastered all over the media...

[FishermanTim]

For the record, her name was LEAKED to the press by the Cambridge police. The POLICE reported that she racially profiled the suspects. She only came forward AFTER the media had released her name.
If she hadn't come forward and FORCED the police to release the
911 tapes SHE would be probably defending herself against some trumped up civil charge.
Isn't funny that once she was able to have the 911 call played on the air the media stopped hounding her and treating her like a social pariah?

Maybe when she sues all those that helped and allowed the libel, slander of her charatcer and threats to her person, then she'll have her 15 minutes of fame?

So let me recap again:
She is not a racist. Never had been.
She did not report any racially profiled 911 call.
She only answered the question the 911 dispatcher asked her about the ethnicity of the suspected persons.
She NEVER spoke with Officer Crowley.
She did not seek the media, the media hunted her down.
She came forward only after having her name and character slandered in the media and the public.
She had received threats to her person.

Any other questions?

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by FishermanTim

For the record, her name was LEAKED to the press by the Cambridge police. The POLICE reported that she racially profiled the suspects. She only came forward AFTER the media had released her name.
If she hadn't come forward and FORCED the police to release the
911 tapes SHE would be probably defending herself against some trumped up civil charge.
Isn't funny that once she was able to have the 911 call played on the air the media stopped hounding her and treating her like a social pariah?

Maybe when she sues all those that helped and allowed the libel, slander of her charatcer and threats to her person, then she'll have her 15 minutes of fame?

So let me recap again:
She is not a racist. Never had been.
She did not report any racially profiled 911 call.
She only answered the question the 911 dispatcher asked her about the ethnicity of the suspected persons.
She NEVER spoke with Officer Crowley.
She did not seek the media, the media hunted her down.
She came forward only after having her name and character slandered in the media and the public.
She had received threats to her person.

Any other questions?

Why are you so up in arms about this? I've followed this and haven't seen her labeled as a racist. She hasn't been slandered in any news reports I've read or heard. If anything, she's been a sympathetic figure because she was doing what any good citizen would do if they were in the same position. She's upset because some bloggers have called her a racist. As far as I know, bloggers aren't real news people. They're just people with opinions who have access to a computer.

And how do you know she didn't speak to the officer? Maybe she lied to you. I read her quotes as saying she never told Crowley the men were black. She didn't say she never spoke to him in the interview I read.

[FishermanTim]

Originally Posted by fishbones

Why are you so up in arms about this? I've followed this and haven't seen her labeled as a racist. She hasn't been slandered in any news reports I've read or heard. If anything, she's been a sympathetic figure because she was doing what any good citizen would do if they were in the same position. She's upset because some bloggers have called her a racist. As far as I know, bloggers aren't real news people. They're just people with opinions who have access to a computer.

And how do you know she didn't speak to the officer? Maybe she lied to you. I read her quotes as saying she never told Crowley the men were black. She didn't say she never spoke to him in the interview I read.

I should step off my soapbox for a moment, because you are right that I sound like I'm getting up in arms.

My reason for me getting so worked up begins with the thought that this woman, a good friend of mine, had been receiving threats for doing the right thing in that situation.

She had been labeled as "racist" from the very start.
The media had pinned that label from the get-go. That's where the bloggers got their fuel for the fire.
Because of these early presumptions she was perceived to have been the person that injected "race" into the event, when she clearly had not.

I believe this woman. I've known her and her husband for close to 20 years, and she is the kind of friend that you would be proud to know.
I spoke with her and her husband this past weekend, and they gave me the complete rundown of events. That included their comment that officer Crowley stated in his report that he had spoken to her, when she vehemently denied having spoken to her.

It pains me to see such a nice person have to defend herself against untruths, where the media considered her guilty until she proved her innocence in this chain of events.

Now I plan on putting this all behind me and move on to more important things in the world like Tiger Woods flatulent gold shot!

Thanks for the reality check!

[Raven]

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