http://www.dem.ri.gov/pubs/regs/regs/fishwild/rimf12.pdf - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

scottw · 03-17-2015, 11:02 AM

RHODE ISLAND MARINE FISHERIES
REGULATIONS
Part XII
Striped Bass
March 17, 2015
R.I. Marine Fisheries Regulations
PART XII - STRIPED BASS
12.1 Recreational:
12.1.1 Minimum size: Twenty-eight inches (28") in total length, whether caught
within the jurisdiction of this State, or otherwise.
12.1.2 Season: There is no closed season for recreational striped bass.
12.1.3 Possession limit: One (1) fish per person per day, whether caught within the
jurisdiction of Rhode Island or otherwise.
(A) Possession limit compliance aboard vessels:
(1) Licensed party/charter vessels: Possession limit compliance aboard
licensed party/charter vessels will be determined by dividing the number of
fish by the number of fishermen onboard the boat.
(2) Multiple licensed recreational fishermen fishing from a single vessel:
Possession limit compliance aboard vessels with multiple licensed fishermen
will be determined by dividing the number of fish by the number of licensed
fishermen on board said vessel.

piemma · 03-17-2015, 11:12 AM

So if I understand correctly, the number of licensed people on board will include the captain and mate if they have licenses.
Therefore a maximum of 8 fish per day per "6 pack" charter rather than 16.
I feel this is a win win for all. I'm happy with it.

iamskippy · 03-17-2015, 11:14 AM

So RI did something smart 1 across the board? I am not good at reading fancy english.
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Nebe · 03-17-2015, 11:15 AM

scott and i posted at the same time

this link makes it really simple to understand

http://www.dem.ri.gov/programs/bnatr...s/031715sb.pdf

DZ · 03-17-2015, 11:16 AM

Sounds like they may be permitting the capt and mate gift their fish to customers which is OK by me. I agree the language is a little vague.

Nebe · 03-17-2015, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DZ

Sounds like they may be permitting the capt and mate gift their fish to customers which is OK by me. I agree the language is a little vague.

I disagree.. one fish per fisherman is different wording than 'per person'. A charter boat with 6 paying clients can only keep 6 fish. Otherwise the wording would have said 'per person, in which case the boat could then keep one fish for captain and mate, who are not fishing.

Thumper · 03-17-2015, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DZ

Sounds like they may be permitting the capt and mate gift their fish to customers which is OK by me. I agree the language is a little vague.

Maybe, but, it says per fisherman, I am not sure if they are counting captain and mate as fisherman.

Thumper · 03-17-2015, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe

I disagree.. one fish per fisherman is different wording than 'per person'. A charter boat with 6 paying clients can only keep 6 fish. Otherwise the wording would have said 'per person, in which case the boat could then keep one fish for captain and mate, who are not fishing.

Oops, Nebe beat me. This is also what I take away from the wording.

thefishingfreak · 03-17-2015, 11:23 AM

The captain and the mate are fishermen. It doesn't say per customer.
If your aunt Betty wants to come along to take pics, she gets a fish too. The boats licence covers everyone on board and the capt
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JohnR · 03-17-2015, 11:24 AM

Well - the client would be out of compliance once in their car if they had more than one per person.

Nebe · 03-17-2015, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

The captain and the mate are fishermen. It doesn't say per customer.
If your aunt Betty wants to come along to take pics, she gets a fish too. The boats licence covers everyone on board except the capt
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In all wording of RI fishing regulations limits are stated 'per person'

the only place that it is mentioned 'per fisherman' is charter regs.

Why would they use different wording?

thefishingfreak · 03-17-2015, 11:28 AM

Because on a private boat everyone need their own license. Hense"fisherman"
On a charter nobody needs a license
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PRBuzz · 03-17-2015, 11:29 AM

Says "possession limit 1 per day": if Capt&mate give their fish to someone else, they can't already have one, right?
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thefishingfreak · 03-17-2015, 11:30 AM

I would guess that becomes a "once you're in your car" problem
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Nebe · 03-17-2015, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

Because on a private boat everyone need their own license. Hense"fisherman"
On a charter nobody needs a license
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With that logic, there is a mistake with the wording then... I am sure this will be addressed in a formal announcement soon enough.

thefishingfreak · 03-17-2015, 11:34 AM

I see your point, but just because its a 2 person charter, doesn't mean it's a 2 fish limit
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thefishingfreak · 03-17-2015, 11:39 AM

Let me rephrase my earlier point, the boats charter license covers everyone on board AND the captain. Not except the captain.
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Nebe · 03-17-2015, 11:44 AM

I see your point, but why not word the relations the same? Simply "1 fish per person"?
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thefishingfreak · 03-17-2015, 11:51 AM

(1) Licensed party/charter vessels: Possession limit compliance aboard
licensed party/charter vessels will be determined by dividing the number of
fish by the number of fishermen onboard the boat.
(2) Multiple licensed recreational fishermen fishing from a single vessel:
Possession limit compliance aboard vessels with multiple licensed fishermen
will be determined by dividing the number of fish by the number of licensed
fishermen on board said vessel.

maybe taking those 2 sentences from above, I would say they are trying to point out that just because you are on a private boat, doesn't mean you have a license.?

Thumper · 03-17-2015, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

(1) Licensed party/charter vessels: Possession limit compliance aboard
licensed party/charter vessels will be determined by dividing the number of
fish by the number of fishermen onboard the boat.
(2) Multiple licensed recreational fishermen fishing from a single vessel:
Possession limit compliance aboard vessels with multiple licensed fishermen
will be determined by dividing the number of fish by the number of licensed
fishermen on board said vessel.

maybe taking those 2 sentences from above, I would say they are trying to point out that just because you are on a private boat, doesn't mean you have a license.?

Right. In other words if you are not fishing aboard your friends boat and your friends are, you are not required to have a license. But, if you decide to pick up a rod, catch and keep a fish, then you should have a license, you are not covered just because your friend who owns the boat has a license.

piemma · 03-17-2015, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

(1) Licensed party/charter vessels: Possession limit compliance aboard
licensed party/charter vessels will be determined by dividing the number of
fish by the number of fishermen onboard the boat.
(2) Multiple licensed recreational fishermen fishing from a single vessel:
Possession limit compliance aboard vessels with multiple licensed fishermen
will be determined by dividing the number of fish by the number of licensed
fishermen on board said vessel.

maybe taking those 2 sentences from above, I would say they are trying to point out that just because you are on a private boat, doesn't mean you have a license.?

Excellent point Mike.

Headhunter · 03-17-2015, 12:04 PM

Its a start now that it appears we are all fishing with the same rules. Lets up the anti and make the size limit 28 to 34 for 2 years.

Nebe · 03-17-2015, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

(1) Licensed party/charter vessels: Possession limit compliance aboard
licensed party/charter vessels will be determined by dividing the number of
fish by the number of fishermen onboard the boat.
(2) Multiple licensed recreational fishermen fishing from a single vessel:
Possession limit compliance aboard vessels with multiple licensed fishermen
will be determined by dividing the number of fish by the number of licensed
fishermen on board said vessel.

maybe taking those 2 sentences from above, I would say they are trying to point out that just because you are on a private boat, doesn't mean you have a license.?

You are totally correct.
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DZ · 03-17-2015, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

(1) Licensed party/charter vessels: Possession limit compliance aboard
licensed party/charter vessels will be determined by dividing the number of
fish by the number of fishermen onboard the boat.
(2) Multiple licensed recreational fishermen fishing from a single vessel:
Possession limit compliance aboard vessels with multiple licensed fishermen
will be determined by dividing the number of fish by the number of licensed
fishermen on board said vessel.

maybe taking those 2 sentences from above, I would say they are trying to point out that just because you are on a private boat, doesn't mean you have a license.?

Wow - maybe this language is why RI took so long to come to a decision?

Nebe · 03-17-2015, 12:10 PM

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PaulS · 03-17-2015, 01:02 PM

Good news. Congrats to all that wrote, called, emailed, cajoled and whined to the powers that be.

DZ · 03-17-2015, 01:09 PM

Oops - Someone screwed up - apparantly the web posting on the DEM website preceded the official announcement by the director - it was taken down. Hold up the parade for a while.