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04-17-2017, 08:41 PM
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Stick Shadds
For those of you that fish them - what's your go-to size and sink rate for canal and non canal situations? Any pointers would also be appreciated.
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04-18-2017, 03:35 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Slow sink. White. Flag on rear. Largest size. Belly hanger to Heavy split ring to swivel to heavy split ring to hook.
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04-18-2017, 07:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
Slow sink. White. Flag on rear. Largest size. Belly hanger to Heavy split ring to swivel to heavy split ring to hook.
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Thanks Paul. Are you using that setup primarily in the canal?
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04-19-2017, 06:57 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Yes.canal is perfect for that lure style. I primarily use it in current. I know guys that will use it on beach too but it never interested me much would rather use something else but I could be missing the boat on that.
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04-19-2017, 10:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
Yes.canal is perfect for that lure style. I primarily use it in current. I know guys that will use it on beach too but it never interested me much would rather use something else but I could be missing the boat on that.
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I've done well with a white slow sinker in the 182 size from the beach in certain conditions.
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04-22-2017, 06:10 PM
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Secretsquirrel
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: South Shore , MA
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How does the new version compare to the old version?
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04-23-2017, 09:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishbones
I've done well with a white slow sinker in the 182 size from the beach in certain conditions.
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Hmm deep water or fast current? |
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04-23-2017, 09:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
Yes.canal is perfect for that lure style. I primarily use it in current. I know guys that will use it on beach too but it never interested me much would rather use something else but I could be missing the boat on that.
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Thanks Paul |
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04-23-2017, 06:29 PM
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Location: Easton, MA
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Originally Posted by Surf Caster
Hmm deep water or fast current?
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Very Little current in fairly shallow water.
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04-24-2017, 07:35 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Had some success with them but for the most part, schooled by the masters 
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How does the new version compare to the old version?
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Hi Greg - have not used the new one yet. |
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04-30-2017, 07:10 AM
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I use them everywhere. I like the floating the best because of the shallow beaches. The new ones are cheaper and come with better hooks. But I've only seen the slow and fast sink on the shelves this spring. Hope they didn't get rid of the floating version
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04-30-2017, 07:17 AM
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Red Eye Jedi
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Originally Posted by JohnnySaxatilis
But I've only seen the slow and fast sink on the shelves this spring. Hope they didn't get rid of the floating version
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Last I heard they weren't doing a run of floaters...which is unfortunate... |
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04-30-2017, 07:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnySaxatilis
I use them everywhere. I like the floating the best because of the shallow beaches. The new ones are cheaper and come with better hooks. But I've only seen the slow and fast sink on the shelves this spring. Hope they didn't get rid of the floating version
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Nice - do you fish them rigged with only one belly book (as demonstrated by Dave Anderson)? |
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04-30-2017, 08:12 PM
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I typically just fish them with both trebles but I'll upgrade the hooks to Vmcs. 2/0 for beaches and 3/0 for canal on the middle size version. Almost everyone takes the back hook off or swaps it for a dressed siwash though. What's great about them is all the different ways you can retrieve em.
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04-30-2017, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bart
Last I heard they weren't doing a run of floaters...which is unfortunate...
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Bummer... wonder if you can still find the floaters anywhere in ghost
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something clever and related to fishing
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05-01-2017, 12:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnySaxatilis
Bummer... wonder if you can still find the floaters anywhere in ghost
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only place I have found them is in the canal
thankfully they float so I am grateful to those who lose them.
that sucks if they are not making them in ghost floating
I am down to my last 2 but I do have 2 others that would need repair as the belly hanger is gone on one and the weight is loose in the other
I fish those with trebles |
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05-01-2017, 04:33 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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White spray paint will transform any color into what you want.
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05-01-2017, 10:36 PM
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White spray paint will transform any color into what you want.
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As long as you want white to be the color 😉.
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05-02-2017, 06:20 AM
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Uncle Remus
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Why would you want it any other color😊
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05-02-2017, 06:53 AM
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That new mackerel pattern looks pretty good too.
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05-02-2017, 07:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
Why would you want it any other color😊
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That's a good point.
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05-03-2017, 07:30 AM
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I had one ghost floater from a number of years ago. Got a few fish on it but traded it for something. I had one great day at the canal with stick shads but it was a 1 off day or something, I have better success with other options. That was when i fished the canal a lot, didnt make it there once last year.
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Everything is better on the rocks.
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05-03-2017, 09:08 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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I would take a magic swimmer over a stick shad any day and twice on Sunday.
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05-03-2017, 09:59 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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I fish them with just the belly treble. Tony O gave me the tip of taking the back hook off entirely and he was spot on.
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No boat, back in the suds.  
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05-03-2017, 08:05 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
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I don't know anyone who fishes them with anything but a belly treble. I would also suggest a flag on the tail.
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05-04-2017, 07:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
I don't know anyone who fishes them with anything but a belly treble. I would also suggest a flag on the tail.
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I do - but I don't fish the canal. I fished them last fall on Block - really impressed by the results - especially in heavy surf and wind conditions when your presentation options are few. Tried the one belly treble on a swivel rigging option but didn't like how it cast in the open surf. Stayed with the two treble option recommended by Pat Sebile and
hook-up ratio improved. Looking forward to fishing them heavily this season - like having a new toy in the bag |
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05-04-2017, 09:16 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Yeah I would think they would shine in snotty conditions. Good to hear about the hook set up too. always learning.
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05-04-2017, 01:46 PM
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Red Eye Jedi
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: East Facing
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Paul is the magic swimmer master...
I'd take a stick shad over a magic swimmer only because they're more versatile in different conditions, which is basically what Dennis eluded to....
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