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Old 12-19-2004, 04:18 PM   #1
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what 10' rod have you found to be the best to fish with over there throwing 3oz. and better[plug's] blank/brand/ #/etc...from the beach,,,no rock climbing or swimming to one to fish.

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Old 12-19-2004, 04:43 PM   #2
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Capesams... alot of guys like the Lami GSB blanks.. the 1021m and L come to mind and alot of the guys will cut 4 inches off the tip.

DZ might chime in and say something totally different
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Old 12-19-2004, 04:47 PM   #3
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Eben, you mean the 120M???

From what I hear a 1321L with 3-4 inches cut from the tip is a killer rod for big plugs. More than 10' obviously unless you chop the butt as well.

This fall I used my All Star 1208 and it seemed up to the task, of throwing big plugs to catch small fish

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Old 12-19-2004, 04:53 PM   #4
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Spence, it is the 1201M. that is the rod i would advise.

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Old 12-19-2004, 05:11 PM   #5
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woops... 1201M.... i can never remember all this crap
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Old 12-19-2004, 05:56 PM   #6
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Same diff, I assumed a one pice

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Old 12-20-2004, 07:56 AM   #7
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Lapinski is right. Big fish, big water, big plugs, big rod Lami 1201M. Although I use the 1321M when targeting really large fish in big water(BI).

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Old 12-20-2004, 11:14 AM   #8
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Right now I would pic an Arra 1205. Second choice would be an Allstar 1266.

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Old 12-20-2004, 11:32 AM   #9
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not sure i would go with the Arra. i have spoken to enough guys that prefer the 1201M over the 1205 for big stuff. the Arra's are more prone to breakage. also, the 1266 seemed a little light for BI. haven't fished with it, but i have felt it before. go with the 1201M. i am working on the 1321L cut down to 10', as well as the 1362M cut down to 10'. the 1201M has done everything i would ever ask of it out there, but i always need more toys...

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Old 12-20-2004, 01:02 PM   #10
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I love my 1201M...
Even though I dont fish the block much, it's still a great stick for SoCo

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Old 12-20-2004, 01:06 PM   #11
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1201M ?

Stupid question, and off topic, sorry, but CS, is that the blank you built my 2 bait sticks on???

I was asked the other day what they were, and I am drawing a "blank"
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Old 12-20-2004, 01:12 PM   #12
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Need to get Goosefish to chime in on this one but I was told that alot of the block island guys will have their builder take a
131 1L and cut the tip back to accept a 14 tube. This comes to about 4". I am currently working on both a spinner for a board member( ) and a conventional(wrapped spiral) for myself. I will tell you one thing................ with the tip cut this rod feels like it will handle anything thrown at it without loosing its castability.

Once both of these are finished I am sure if anyone would like to give it a cast or two, they will be more than welcome too!


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Old 12-20-2004, 01:14 PM   #13
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Toby,

Just a thought! If I were you I wouldnt waste the length and cut the 132 1L down to 10', unless your taking the full 12" off the tip and I dont think you are?
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Old 12-20-2004, 01:17 PM   #14
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Russ. i am going to clip the tip and go from there. if it feels fine at 10'+, it will stay that way. i won't be starting that one for another few weeks. been to busy to really do much wrapping the past few weeks. working like mad and sending all the $$ right out the door lately.

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Old 12-20-2004, 01:43 PM   #15
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yes Karl, it is......txs for the input guy's

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Old 12-20-2004, 02:04 PM   #16
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I use my Arra 1205 in the canal. Smokey uses the 1266 in the canal. If they can land 35 pounders in 4.5 knots , , those rods will handle Moby #^&#^&#^&#^& anywhere in the world. Both will outcast a Lami 1201M by a lot..

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Old 12-20-2004, 02:14 PM   #17
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i wasn't saying they couldn't handle fish in current, just covering the casting weight needs Steve is looking for. like i said, my knowlege of those 2 blanks comes only from other fishermen's experiences not personal experience throwing them. what would you consider is an honest rating of the 1266's capability? it felt light to me.

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Old 12-20-2004, 02:25 PM   #18
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We cast up to 5 OZ jigs with both. Both have a sweet spot at 4 OZ. They both can put 4 OZ jigs out 150 yards. I've seen Arra himself cast 4 about 180 yards with his 1205. Of course you'll get less distance with plugs but the weight is no problem.

Interestingly enough , the Allstar 1267 which because of the 7 you would assume would handle more , will not hamdle 5 OZ. The 1266 will.

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Old 12-20-2004, 05:29 PM   #19
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what rod you fish on BI is not much different than the rod you fish w/ in SC or CC. it's what you target and what you throw that matters more. there are conditions where an 11' may be better or a 9' may be better, but 10' is about the perfect length rod for rocky shores in rhody. if you are targeting queen fish, then you want a rod that you can lean back on and lean into to throw heavy lures. i have both a 1205 and a 1201m. i have built several of each for customers and all love them for the purpose they use them for. the 1m is a little more moderate in action than the 1205, but both have similar power characteristics. as for breakage of the 1205 or arra's in general, i have yet to see one of my customs break. one such customer had some guy w/ a weird mustache drive over the rod and only a guide cracked. this customer beats his stuff up pretty hard too. what rod do i grab? a 10' sb1363m i cut down. it does everything i want. i like all stars, but they do not fit these applications in my opinion.
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Old 12-21-2004, 10:35 AM   #20
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There are many many Allstar blanks. I beleive ther is one to fit any application from light schoolie fishing to "8 n bait" heavers. .

Sea wolf , have you ever tried a 1266?? Its a great rod. Honestly casts 2 to 5. It very fast action (if you like that , I do). It casts better than any lami GSB and most XRA's. Very rugged spigot ferrels. A great alternative for those who want a heavier surf rod but must have two pieces for transportation reasons.

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Old 12-21-2004, 04:08 PM   #21
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Just finished test casting the 132 1L cut down..............Ended up cutting exactly 4" from the tip and I will tell you this! This rod is gonna be very versitile as well as stout! I was told that with 4" off it would require a 14 tube tip but thats not the case................ It needs a 12 tube.

As Spence how it test casted! Granted no wind resistance and just throwing a bank sinker but damn!

I cant wait to setup my conventional/spiral wrap!


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Old 12-21-2004, 05:46 PM   #22
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I would say that as long as I stick to casting bank sinkers, I will be outcasting most members of the board next season

Can't wait to try to rod with a big needle

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