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03-26-2007, 12:10 AM
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A-40/7" tail weight?
Putting together an A-40, do they need a tail weight? If so what is the general size/wgt for a 7" A-40?
Thanks
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03-26-2007, 07:53 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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Nope! No tail weight! Experiment with belly weights....also depends on the wood you use! If at first you don't succeed, try, try again!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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03-26-2007, 07:55 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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Also Canalman (aka Dave Anderson) wrote a nice article on A-40's I think in the Fisherman about 4-5 weeks ago....might want to check it out!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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03-26-2007, 08:22 AM
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http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ad.php?t=39492
They can be made with tail weight
I made some without it
tailweight allows them to be casted and fished in rough weather and surf.
ya need to experiment
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03-26-2007, 10:47 AM
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Thanks for the response and the info. guys!
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03-26-2007, 11:32 AM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
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It depends on wood type... the tail weight will calm down the wiggle if your test version is too wacky, add some tail weight... be carefull not to add too much b/c it can throw off the balance... if your 40's are still too lively with the weight, try widening the tail diameter to help offset the angle that the tailweight might create.
-Dave
Last edited by Canalman; 03-26-2007 at 12:01 PM..
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03-26-2007, 11:49 AM
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Registered Grandpa
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Or ya can reverse 'em, no weight and add a flaptail.
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03-26-2007, 01:22 PM
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Pond made them both ways, the weighted ones were called Fat Atoms. Numbskull can give you the details.
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Why even try.........
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03-26-2007, 03:32 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
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yup ... tail weighted ones are fatter on the bottom .. more straight line than curved in ... CS told me .. I can see it now . Numby may have pic .
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
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03-26-2007, 04:01 PM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
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Never saw one of those... can someone post a pic?
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03-26-2007, 04:12 PM
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03-26-2007, 04:14 PM
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03-26-2007, 04:36 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
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Fisrt pic is weighted,,the other 3 are not....weighted ones were made for trolling....But can be used in the surf like Slip say's.
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03-26-2007, 05:21 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
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You rang? Note also the lead in the paint.
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03-27-2007, 02:31 PM
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Uncle Remus
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Hey George does the bottom one, unweighted tail, have weights put above the hook hangers, swivels, for belly weights or am I just seeing things above the hooks. P.
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03-27-2007, 05:20 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
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I don't think so, Paul. The old atoms had some sort of home made swivel that was a brass tube with a through wire hole in it, and then crimped on one end to hold an elongated swivel loop.
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03-27-2007, 05:50 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
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Just so happens ... Disregard split rings...

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03-27-2007, 05:53 PM
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Cheese and crackers, Tagger! Between you and George, you got all the answers!
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03-27-2007, 06:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
Hey George does the bottom one, unweighted tail, have weights put above the hook hangers, swivels, for belly weights or am I just seeing things above the hooks. P.
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03-27-2007, 08:13 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
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My question is about the A 40 nose... talkin the old wood ones ... some the nose is round ,,some are flat ... why ? wich came first ?
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03-27-2007, 09:32 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
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.02 say's flat came first..trailer baits......then round / shop built.
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03-28-2007, 10:58 AM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
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I'm surprised to see no weight in the belly of the one without the tail weight... probably very rolly no? With that snow plow of a lip on there
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03-28-2007, 11:49 AM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
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no more roll then any other plug of that type..if you noticed,,Bob started to turn the edges of the lips up...swims very tite. plugs with the lead in the tail swim with very little tail movement compaired to the plug without lead that has a wide tail wiggle.
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03-28-2007, 11:56 AM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
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I have noticed the "Scoop" lips... Still I like them with the belly weight.. But I'll try one without again to see the difference.
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03-28-2007, 03:51 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
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I've seen an early Atom with a belly weight, but I think Bob only did it on light blanks to bring the weight up to spec, since the belly weighted one I've seen weighs the same as the unweighted ones I have.
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03-28-2007, 04:21 PM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
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that could be..
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04-06-2007, 08:27 AM
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Shorts
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Capesams
Is that what you really look like?
Are you a holloween buff?
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04-06-2007, 06:18 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
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to much surf + boat fishin without sunblocker. this could be you at 70....u been warned.
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BOAT fish do count.
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04-06-2007, 06:24 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
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the hair u see on my head gets there from combing it up from my back.
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BOAT fish do count.
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