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11-22-2007, 06:24 AM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
Posts: 2,508
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Any question regarding CONDITIONS
Must begin with two words: LOG BOOK
Dark nights...............cloudy and pissing Full, regular New.
From FAC to 1'-3' max.....................worked well for my biggest feesh this year, multiple 30#'s, lost three Monstahs during same conditons at me honey hole.
Wind........................between 0 - 15 kts in my face, not in me mug, swirling, SW is good for that particular spot. it all depends on where. LOG BOOK
EEEEEEEEEELS.......................JULY to SEPT at just the right structure, slingin' 'em at the right time of the
Water........................the depth of the TIDE is key and changes with location and alters the availability of structure, unless yer at the EWall or similar places and can fish all phases.
My Honey Hole is definitely depth sensitive. 2 Hours either side of Low is GO TIME!!! 1 Hour, either side of High, has been marginally notable and will get more offerings next season. LOG BOOK
Some places are High tide places, some are Low, and some are Rising, and still others are Falling tide places. And then there's the Bways and River mouths, always feesh the outgoing on the outside and sometimes the inside on the incoming. Last summer caught some avg keepers on bunker Storms ~inside on the outgoing..........go figure. LOG BOOK
Beaches??? Pray for surf, 4'-6' ~and less~ works well for me. And then there is the Nor'Easters factor with regard to Water. Lots to learn, eh tamer? LOG BOOK
Mostly it's about puttin' in the time and finding yer own li'l honey cove, yer stretch of beach, personalizing "your" perch of rocks, and documenting the CRAP out of those ideal conditions that work BEST at your best producer, and then it's time to "Lock It Up". LOG BOOK
When asked about sharing my Honey Hole with others The Iron One once asked me, "Jess, how do ya think we know that our fish will always be there? It's because we keep our producers to ourselves. How well do you know the guy that your taking there? If he isn't yer best friend or family he's gonna tell his best friends and family, and who are they gonna tell?" Swallow the key, burn the map, and keep it to yerseff; sose as to not bring in the CLOWNS and/or send the COWS packing from too much pressh. Obviously, yer more public places are all about "first come, first served", and are already well known by most. I'm referring to that one or more places that work well for you on a consistent and productive basis and may be a little less well known.
Good Luck, bro! Oh yeah, did I mention the fact that we know these spots and we know the right conditions, and the right time of year, because we use a LOG BOOK???? Just bustin' ya! Have fun, cow tamer, and write it down!!!
Last edited by BassDawg; 11-22-2007 at 10:37 PM..
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"The first condition of happiness is that the connection
between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy
Tight Lines, and
Happy Hunting to ALL!
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11-22-2007, 09:19 AM
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#32
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Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 4 hours from my favorite place
Posts: 5,366
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technically this may be 2 single conditions but I tend to group them together as a condition....
Sunrise/sunset!!!!
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Simplify.......
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11-22-2007, 01:21 PM
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#33
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: R.I.
Posts: 515
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Sunrise/sunset with a overcast, light winds, A little current,1 hour before and after high tide, plenty of bait, thats perfect conditions.
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11-22-2007, 04:43 PM
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#34
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: In the water
Posts: 461
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I love FAC. Especially when bait is around and the fish are on top. Makes being a fly fisherman alot easier in these situations.
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11-22-2007, 08:28 PM
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#35
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Mid Coastal CT
Posts: 2,007
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As BASStracker stated the log book is absolutely your best tool. This year I started to use it on a regular basis and it gave me a major edge, when trying to figure out when and where to fish.
For example: My 2007 Log indicates that all of my best nights were had around a new moon (spot regaurdless). In my ussuall spots the last two hours of outgoing to the first hour of incomming tide were very productive. And I can see that on almost all of my good nights I had a wind in my face.
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11-23-2007, 09:56 AM
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#36
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: New Haven Ct
Posts: 957
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first of the flood,fac,light n/w or s/w wind,live eels
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11-23-2007, 10:08 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: MA/RI
Posts: 2,411
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What is fac ?
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11-23-2007, 11:03 AM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redsoxticket
What is fac ?
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I'm glad someone asked
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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11-23-2007, 11:14 AM
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#39
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: MA/RI
Posts: 2,411
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full a chit
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11-23-2007, 01:38 PM
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M.S.B.A.
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: I live in the Villiage of Hyannis in the Town of Barnstable in the Commonwealth of MA
Posts: 2,795
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WIND
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"It is impossible to complain and to achieve at the same time"--Basic Patrick (on a good day)
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11-23-2007, 02:49 PM
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Spot Preserver
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 2,461
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vogt
As BASStracker stated the log book is absolutely your best tool. This year I started to use it on a regular basis and it gave me a major edge, when trying to figure out when and where to fish.
For example: My 2007 Log indicates that all of my best nights were had around a new moon (spot regaurdless). In my ussuall spots the last two hours of outgoing to the first hour of incomming tide were very productive. And I can see that on almost all of my good nights I had a wind in my face.
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Vogt given this information one can deduce that you fish inlets, and bait was being held up in them by the wind. 
The most important thing to me is BAIT. Without bait fish WILL not hold. You might catch a cruiser going by but you wont catch the #'s of fish if bait is present. It is a whole lot more complicated than this though.
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11-23-2007, 03:07 PM
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#42
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Mid Coastal CT
Posts: 2,007
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[QUOTE=keeperreaper;541965]Vogt given this information one can deduce that you fish inlets, and bait was being held up in them by the wind. 
Sometimes inlets, sometimes rivers, sometimes open beach. 
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11-23-2007, 03:56 PM
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#43
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tattoobob
I'm glad someone asked
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Flat ass calm = FAC
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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11-23-2007, 10:56 PM
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#44
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ditch boy
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: the sea
Posts: 664
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structure and moving water i.e. rips, surf, small current.
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11-23-2007, 11:07 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,692
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the best condition???
being single 
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