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11-27-2007, 06:46 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Stamford,CT
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Best line to use
I`m just starting the "basics" regarding surf casting, since I put the boat away.
I have 2 poles, one is a 9 1/2, that has a ( don`t laugh), South Bend 670A Long Cast, with a gear ratio of 4.6: 1.
The other pole is an 11 1/2, that has a ( I`m serious!  ), Michell 386 ?
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I`m guessing Braid would not be the best choice ? Mono ? What lb. would work best? |
Mako 22ft
200 Evinrude
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11-27-2007, 07:01 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
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I would use big game 20 # test or ande' back country also 20 #test
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey 
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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11-27-2007, 07:16 PM
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Great White Scup Hunter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In the Corner...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tattoobob
I would use big game 20 # test or ande' back country also 20 #test
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Bingo |
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11-27-2007, 07:17 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Martha's Vineyard, MA
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trilene 20# big game works fine for me  |
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11-27-2007, 07:55 PM
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Been many moons
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Aquidneck Island
Posts: 400
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tattoobob
I would use big game 20 # test or ande' back country also 20 #test
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BINGO |
Standing on the water, casting your bread
While the eyes of the idol with the iron head are glowing
Distant ships sailing into the mist
You were born with a snake in both of your fists while a hurricane was blowing
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11-27-2007, 08:20 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Mid Coastal CT
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20Lb. Ande Backcountry. Hands-down the best mono I've ever used.
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11-28-2007, 02:30 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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20# mono or 20# Fireline for the big Mitchell (Why the don't laugh? That's one hell of a good reel).
Keep the South Bend as a paperweight  |
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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11-28-2007, 02:30 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vogt
20Lb. Ande Backcountry. Hands-down the best mono I've ever used.
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Double BINGO!!! |
No boat, back in the suds.  
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11-28-2007, 07:03 PM
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Canceled
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
Posts: 13,425
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"modern" line I would say fireline
These guys know way more about mono than I do
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11-29-2007, 07:06 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Stamford,CT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
20# mono or 20# Fireline for the big Mitchell (Why the don't laugh? That's one hell of a good reel).
Keep the South Bend as a paperweight |
Geez, by the "looks" of the South Bend, (very fancy red color, with "performance" numbers written all over it), I thought it would be the other way around  |
Mako 22ft
200 Evinrude
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11-29-2007, 05:29 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: RI
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Mono-20lb Ande BackCountry.Period.
Braid-Don't care,don't use it.
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11-29-2007, 10:30 PM
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Easton, MA
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Dollar for dollar, I'd go with the Ande, too. I ended up fishing with a buddy's setup last year and he had his Penn 5500 spooled with it. I liked it so much I spooled 3 of my spinning reels with the 15 lb soon after and have stuck with it. I mostly throw plugs and change out my line pretty often. I find that I like it better than the more expensive mono I was using. I still have a couple of reels spooled with Yozuri hybrid 20lb which I also like.
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11-30-2007, 04:34 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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Just a note. Bill Nolan (#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&) turned me on to the Ande Backcountry about 3 years ago. Up until then it was hard to find. I used it in the surf and couldn't believe the abrasion resistance, the lack of memory and the suppleness of the line. I now use it on all my spinning reels on my boat.It is just the best mono available. I was a confirmed Big game mono guy before he told me about Backcountry. Try it.
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No boat, back in the suds.
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11-30-2007, 08:42 AM
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Just Keep On Pluggin !
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: New Haven,CT.
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I was using fireline on all my reels. I got tired of wind knots did not have many but always at the worst of times. I tried Backcountry 20#
for the fall run and I'm hooked. I also will be using it on all my spinning
gear
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11-30-2007, 08:47 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Stamford,CT
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So there is a big difference between Big Game 20, and Ande ?
The tackle store didn`t have Ande, so I bought the other.
If it`s that good, I`ll use that, I don`t care
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Mako 22ft
200 Evinrude
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11-30-2007, 11:02 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by danno1
So there is a big difference between Big Game 20, and Ande ?
The tackle store didn`t have Ande, so I bought the other.
If it`s that good, I`ll use that, I don`t care
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you can usually find Backcountry on ebay |
No boat, back in the suds.
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11-30-2007, 11:10 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Stamford,CT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
you can usually find Backcountry on ebay
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Interesting. Never thought of there for line  |
Mako 22ft
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11-30-2007, 12:06 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 211
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Pro-Bass saltwater catlog has it.
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Tight Lines!!!!
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11-30-2007, 06:24 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: RI
Posts: 5,704
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Saltwater Edge has BackCountry!
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11-30-2007, 06:32 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: marshfield,ma
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30# fireline on spinning. Unlike mono the fireline gets better with time.
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11-30-2007, 06:46 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: brockton
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Have any of you guys used Yo zuri Hybrid ultra soft? A lot of freshwater guys love it? If so how does it stack up to the Ande?
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11-30-2007, 06:52 PM
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Registered User
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Location: RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dahark
Have any of you guys used Yo zuri Hybrid ultra soft? A lot of freshwater guys love it? If so how does it stack up to the Ande?
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BC is better.
As far as comparing braid(fireline) to mono(BC)...no point.Two different species altogether. |
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11-30-2007, 11:13 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Easton, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dahark
Have any of you guys used Yo zuri Hybrid ultra soft? A lot of freshwater guys love it? If so how does it stack up to the Ande?
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The Yo-Zuri hybrid is a flourocarbon polymer line, whatever that means. I only use the 20 pound test and I don't think it says anything about ultra soft on the packaging. I like it because it has less stretch, is pretty abrasion resistant in the rocks and has a little less memory than mono. I haven't compared it to the 20 pound Ande, though. I use only the 15 lb Ande Back Country and have nothing but good things to say about it. |
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12-01-2007, 10:21 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: brockton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishbones
The Yo-Zuri hybrid is a flourocarbon polymer line, whatever that means. I only use the 20 pound test and I don't think it says anything about ultra soft on the packaging. I like it because it has less stretch, is pretty abrasion resistant in the rocks and has a little less memory than mono. I haven't compared it to the 20 pound Ande, though. I use only the 15 lb Ande Back Country and have nothing but good things to say about it.
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I think you are using Yo Zuri original. They have an Ultra soft line that is also a coplymer line and it is supposed to be not as stiff as the OG formula and more manageble, very abrasion resistant and very strong. I think the 6lb line is like 12 lb strength and 12 lb more like 20 strength. So its would mean longer casts without without giving up strength.. Like I said freshwater guys rave about it and dont see any reason it wouldnt be a good fit for saltwater. I might have to look into this Ande BC though |
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12-01-2007, 11:17 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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As a general rule, softness and abrasion resistance are mutually exclusive terms with mono. I'd have to see this new Yozuri line in action before I'd accept their claims that it's both 
I know their Hybrid is stiff and wiry. I took it off my Newell 229 and put 25# BC on instead. |
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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12-01-2007, 11:31 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Long Island
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How's the Ande Backcountry on conventional reels?
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