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03-18-2009, 06:51 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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Line Problem question
I am looking to buy a bulk spool of Power Pro,
My problem is I have 3 reels all different sizes
VS 200, VS250, & VS300
I want to know what you would use for all three
I would normally use 65 # on the 250 and 300
and 50 # on the 200, will 65 # be ok on the 200 ok?
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
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03-18-2009, 07:01 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
Posts: 18,203
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I'd just go 50 across the board....
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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03-18-2009, 07:09 PM
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ditch boy
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: the sea
Posts: 664
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
I'd just go 50 across the board....
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same
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03-18-2009, 07:11 PM
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Finally
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: FL
Posts: 7,181
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03-18-2009, 07:22 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Fork
Posts: 2,260
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Wow i use 30lbs fireline on my 250 when you think about it 20 lbs fireline breaks at around 68lbs i can't imagine what 50 or 60 power pro would break at.
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Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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03-18-2009, 07:31 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,718
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Bob,don't you usually fish sandy beaches? I fish with guys that use pp 40# for the canal.I would go with 40 or 50. I think 65 is overkill and will drastically reduce casting distance. I use it for yoyo or on the 275 for tuna.
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03-18-2009, 07:34 PM
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Night Stalker
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: ............
Posts: 3,605
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50 on all 3. 65 is way too thick for my tase and like SD said it will hurt your casting distance.
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03-18-2009, 07:52 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
I'd just go 50 across the board....
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That's what I do. I do have one reel (Saltist 30H) spooled with 65# Sufix. That goes on my All Star 1209 conventional for the 9" shads. They cast like an old shoe anyway, and I had the spool of 65 and figured that it was a good a use of it as any.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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03-18-2009, 07:56 PM
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Ruled only by the tide
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Truro
Posts: 801
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Agree that if you only want to buy one spool, 50# is the way to go. I really don't see much use in any case for anything over 50# unless you're planning on tackling tuna...then you'll need to go to at least 80# for the class fish we're expecting next year. Otherwise, anything heavier is just not required and will cut down on casting distances.
My 2 cents.
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Three-fourths of the Earth's surface is water, and one-fourth is land. It is quite clear that the good Lord intended us to spend triple the amount of time fishing as taking care of the lawn.
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03-18-2009, 08:53 PM
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Pete K.
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,953
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never figured out a sure fire method to start with mono backing, add braid (from a 300 yard spool) use the entire spool, and end up filling it to the exact point you want it without having 40 extra yards, or coming up not quite filled.... *sorry to deviate slightly off topic.... I use 50# on a vs200
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03-18-2009, 08:59 PM
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Ruled only by the tide
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Truro
Posts: 801
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanputski
never figured out a sure fire method to start with mono backing, add braid (from a 300 yard spool) use the entire spool, and end up filling it to the exact point you want it without having 40 extra yards, or coming up not quite filled.... *sorry to deviate slightly off topic.... I use 50# on a vs200
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The best way is if you have another identical reel, or one with the same spool capacity. If so, load the extra spool first, putting on your braid first. When all the braid is gone, tie the backing on using an albright (or similar) with a touch of super glue for extra knot strength. After the glue has fully dried, spool up with mono until you get it as full as you prefer.
Then, take the tag end of the mono and begin spooling it to the reel you wish to use and you will end-up with all your braid and just the amount of backing you need.
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Three-fourths of the Earth's surface is water, and one-fourth is land. It is quite clear that the good Lord intended us to spend triple the amount of time fishing as taking care of the lawn.
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03-18-2009, 11:57 PM
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,505
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you are up past your bedtime , Paul.
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May fortune favor the foolish....
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03-19-2009, 01:50 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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who can sleep
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03-19-2009, 05:30 AM
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woody
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Port St Lucie Fla.
Posts: 1,062
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50 across the board
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You can go anywhere you want if you look serious and carry a
Clipboard.
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03-19-2009, 05:31 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: cape cod when my meds r workin right
Posts: 1,412
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50 fine .....  with 65 u can pull morrings off the bottom..
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03-19-2009, 08:34 AM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
Posts: 2,508
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i'm going with 65# braid this year for my 704Z.
too many rocks where i'll be angling for some bigguns.
as Crazy Al, and others have said endlessly, when it comes time
to deal with the monsters of the surf, at the right place at the right time~~~
the last thing that you want is to be undergunned and overmatched.
i ran out of line last year on a really big fish that forced me to horse her in when she began to rubb after hunkering down~~~because i had no more MONO left to give. it only took about four cranks and she was GONZO. a most valuable lesson that i hope will be rectified with the added yardage and stopping ability of braid.
as far as casting distance goes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,use eeeeels or chunks.
**they're always within 50 yards of yer feet anyways, Bob**
sooooo, why not buy the big spool in 50# braid,
and fill the VS300 with 65# braid for CowTown tusslin'?
Last edited by BassDawg; 03-19-2009 at 08:40 AM..
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"The first condition of happiness is that the connection
between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy
Tight Lines, and
Happy Hunting to ALL!
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03-19-2009, 09:04 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,690
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50 for a 50
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03-19-2009, 09:17 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,718
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Crazy Al is a chunker who uses a conventional setup. If you want to use 65 go for it but it will limit your oppotunities.I regretted having it on my spool last year most of the time.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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03-19-2009, 09:48 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,038
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Regrets
I always regret using PP. Much less trouble with Suffix.
J
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03-19-2009, 12:23 PM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
Posts: 2,508
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Crazy Al is a chunker who uses a conventional setup. If you want to use 65 go for it but it will limit your oppotunities.I regretted having it on my spool last year most of the time.
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COOL, thanks Chris!
but will 50# Suffix/Fireline
hold up to a FIDDY+ in these??

Last edited by BassDawg; 03-19-2009 at 12:30 PM..
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"The first condition of happiness is that the connection
between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy
Tight Lines, and
Happy Hunting to ALL!
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03-19-2009, 12:29 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,718
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Jess, the canal isn't exactly a sandy bottom. If abrasion resistance is what you seek then fish mono.Otherwise, use 50 and a nice,long leader.
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03-19-2009, 12:39 PM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
Posts: 2,508
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thanks again,,,,,,,,,,,,Chris.
i'm gonna give braid it's due this migration,
amongst boulder central. i drop one due to a break off,
and i'll be dropping YOU at the Brewery, me bruddah!
i can always go back to old fatihful, should my ineptitude and braid not mix. distance is not the issue there, and i've only had the ONE biggun go straight for that part of the bottom in three years. lotsa people, been nudging me towards the braid,,,,,,,,,maybe it's TIME and only time will tell??

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"The first condition of happiness is that the connection
between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy
Tight Lines, and
Happy Hunting to ALL!
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03-19-2009, 02:52 PM
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Ruled only by the tide
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Truro
Posts: 801
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MAKAI
you are up past your bedtime , Paul.
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I posted that at 8:59p....jeesh what time do you think I go to bed? 
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Three-fourths of the Earth's surface is water, and one-fourth is land. It is quite clear that the good Lord intended us to spend triple the amount of time fishing as taking care of the lawn.
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03-19-2009, 03:32 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
I'd just go 50 across the board....
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I have 65 on one of my larger spooled tuna spinning reels. IMO 50 PP is fine for the shore. If you are fishing rocks in a manner where you expect the line to be rubbing on barnacle encrusted boulders...then # test really doesn't matter when your talking about braid, because they all suck when it comes to abrasion...yeah some are a little better than others but they still suck and your best bet is mono. If you can manage to work around boulders then I would go with braid, IMO braid will give you a lot more opportunities to hook up than mono. Landing them is as mentioned above.
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03-19-2009, 03:34 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanputski
never figured out a sure fire method to start with mono backing, add braid (from a 300 yard spool) use the entire spool, and end up filling it to the exact point you want it without having 40 extra yards, or coming up not quite filled.... *sorry to deviate slightly off topic.... I use 50# on a vs200
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http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ad.php?t=55923
Check out the third post down from Joe, Surfcasting RI. Some excellent information on that topic.
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03-19-2009, 03:35 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
They cast like an old shoe anyway.
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03-19-2009, 03:54 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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Thanks everyone I guess I will go with 50 #
I fish both sand and Rocks probably 50/50 % of the time
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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03-19-2009, 05:10 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BassDawg
i'm going with 65# braid this year for my 704Z.
too many rocks where i'll be angling for some bigguns.
as Crazy Al, and others have said endlessly, when it comes time
to deal with the monsters of the surf, at the right place at the right time~~~
the last thing that you want is to be undergunned and overmatched.
i ran out of line last year on a really big fish that forced me to horse her in when she began to rubb after hunkering down~~~because i had no more MONO left to give. it only took about four cranks and she was GONZO. a most valuable lesson that i hope will be rectified with the added yardage and stopping ability of braid.
as far as casting distance goes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,use eeeeels or chunks.
**they're always within 50 yards of yer feet anyways, Bob**
sooooo, why not buy the big spool in 50# braid,
and fill the VS300 with 65# braid for CowTown tusslin'?
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I hate to be the one to burst your bubble, but if you really think that you're going to get more 65# braid on your 704 than 20# mono, you're in for a rude awakening 
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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03-19-2009, 06:29 PM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
Posts: 2,508
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thanks for the heads up Mike,
i usually use 25# BCountry w/ 60#shock leader.
do you think that i'll realize any difference with 50# braid?
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"The first condition of happiness is that the connection
between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy
Tight Lines, and
Happy Hunting to ALL!
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03-19-2009, 06:45 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BassDawg
thanks for the heads up Mike,
i usually use 25# BCountry w/ 60#shock leader.
do you think that i'll realize any difference with 50# braid?
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If you look at most brands of braid--there is a huge jump in diameter from 50# to 65#. You'll get more 50# braid on a 704 than 25# mono, but if you jump up to 65# you'll get about the same as 25# mono.
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