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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"Pls. point out where I said it was racist?"
Are you serious? You posted this..."minorities don't have as much access to other legally forms such as Passports, military IDs or other government-issued photo ID"And I told you why. Minorities and students don't drive as much and live in cities so they don't have as much need or in many cases can't afford a car. If you don't want to believe that, that is your problem. Pointing that out, doesn't make me racist. If it was I could call you racist almost every day when you bring blacks into your discussions. - Right?
Your were saying that Republicans favor voter id laws, because that will suppress black Don't think I ever mentioned blacks - did I? So you bring up blacks out of the blue and call me racist when I never mentioned blacks? Hmm turnout, because of the reduced acceess you claim (falsely, and without even trying to support it) minorities have to these ids.See what I have said a few times here and have repeated it in the 1st paragraph bc for some reason you don't seem to understand it.
If you lose an argument, better to admit that you lost it, than to deny you made it in the first place.
"It affects minorities more (who vote Democratic more)."
That's a choice on their part, a choice not to bear the burden placed on all voters. It's not because of institutional bias.So it isn't a true statement? - I'll save you the trouble, it is a true statement.
"There is no fraud "
None? How many examples would you like us to post of voter fraud? It's not rampant, but of course it exists.
"Why disenfranchise so many voters if as you agree there is so little fraud"
(1) What fraud? Didn't you say in your previous sentence, "there is no fraud"? And now all of a sudden, there is a little fraud? Which is it? (2) To answer your question, we do this because we can reduce the fraud even more. Less fraud is good, isn't it? It will only disenfranchise people if they choose to let it disenfranchise them. It doesn't prevent anyone from voting.
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Of course there is fraud - it is so small to be meaningless. If you want to base your whole arguement on the little/no fraud statement go ahead. You'll just look petty. And of course less fraud is good but when 0,000s of 0,000s of people don't get to vote bc you are trying to reduce the minimal (almost non existent) fraud, the costs outway the benefits.
The fact is Repubs. will do anything they can to prevent people from voting whether by Id laws, shortening polling times, refusing to allow people to automatically be registered to vote when they get drivers licenses (and you can comment on that if you want) or any other innovative way to vote. And that is Pathetic.
You can't make that wrong.
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