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Originally Posted by JohnR

No - we had that - it was the Reagan era Amnesty.


We need a guest worker system - big difference with increase in the front door

I never said anything about amnesty, I was talking specifically about a guest worker program that recognizes ten percent (I’ve read) of our economy is driven by illegal immigrants. Codify it into law so immigrant workers don’t feel the need to fly under the radar. Problem now for instance is they’ll require people to register and check in then detain them when they do in good faith.

Do this to get currently illegal workers on the books then increase penalties for employers who don’t comply. Instead of insulting and mocking our neighbors work with them to address root causes as we can never militarize our border enough nor should we need to.

What looks to be the current plan sounds to me a lot like Iraq after 911, disrupt the status quo and democracy will flourish but in this case it’s a belief Americans will fill in those jobs. Both were/are fools errands. All Trump is going to do is cause suffering and potentially mutate who we are which is a nation of immigrants.

Two years ago my neighbor had three building reroofed by a Guatemalan crew, no idea if they were all here legally but they were fast, clean, professional and did top quality work. I also work with a number of people on H1b visas. It’s not just that US companies are better off with top talent, in a global economy tech companies are more effective when they can integrate rather than work country to country.

The can has been kicked down the road so many times it’s not an easy problem to solve, but a go it alone approach rooted in xenophobia and a LOT of misinformation simply isn’t going to make our country stronger.