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Old 08-21-2013, 09:39 PM   #36
detbuch
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Originally Posted by spence View Post
Sorry, on the road and can't type a lot on the ipad.

But what if you don't perceive stuff as free?
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It's not the stuff that's free. It's the transfer of the stuff from someone who has earned it or produced it to someone who doesn't give something of value in return. When the transfer is forced, confiscated from one and given to another who doesn't return equal value or any value to the person from whom the stuff was taken, the rational perception of the receiver would be that he GOT it for free, got it without paying or working for it. But the receiver of the confiscated gift would not rationally "perceive" the gift, itself, as a "free" commodity, one which was not paid for or earned by the one from whom it was taken. He who received the transferred gift would only want it if it had some exchange value. Stuff that is intrinsically "free," stuff which has no exchange value because it is "freely" available, such as the air that justplugit mentioned, is stuff that would be "perceived" as "free."

By the way, it seems that you are deflecting away from the discussion with this tidbit. So much has been proffered, in response to your first question, which you haven't answered, and you move on to this typically nebulous question which derails the argument into an insignificant sidetrack.

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