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12-16-2014, 07:02 PM
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Two fish over 33" a day for every client including mate and crew isn't going to happen and any captain that tells you he can do it day after day is full of crap .
A lot of experts here but nobody really understands marketing. It's all about the perception and then sell the experience. Nobody's going on a six pack charter with the anticipation and excitement of catching 1/ 28 inch bass .
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12-16-2014, 07:19 PM
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Location: New Haven
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Originally Posted by buckman
A lot of experts here but nobody really understands marketing. It's all about the perception and then sell the experience. Nobody's going on a six pack charter with the anticipation and excitement of catching 1/ 28 inch bass .
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I have been on 6 pack charters before and didn't care about how many fish I caught. Many people go on 6 pack charters for the experience, so to say no one would go on a charter w 1@ 28 is blatantly false
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12-16-2014, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
A lot of experts here but nobody really understands marketing. It's all about the perception and then sell the experience. Nobody's going on a six pack charter with the anticipation and excitement of catching 1/ 28 inch bass .
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Have to disagree with you on that one.
I know the reductions in daily limits have killed the green harbor cod business (hurt us too - at one time we spent March and April at Taylors running trips for Bigfish), but Striper charters are a different beast. Customers that take bass charters are generally not meat fisherman that travel up from NJ in white vans and try to justify their trip based one the pounds of fillet they take home with them. I find most of our clients want to take home fillets, but that's not the sole purpose of the trip (like Cod guys).
I really believe this, and its not like I'm some fly-rodding fish hugger - I'm normally on here explaining why commercial harvest is a good thing.
And for background, we're booked for bass trips 7 days a week all season. As long as the states stick together on 1 fish, we won't see a decline in charters.
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12-16-2014, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by big jay
As long as the states stick together on 1 fish, we won't see a decline in charters.
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Thank you big jay!!! Exactly!
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12-16-2014, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by big jay
Have to disagree with you on that one.
I know the reductions in daily limits have killed the green harbor cod business (hurt us too - at one time we spent March and April at Taylors running trips for Bigfish), but Striper charters are a different beast. Customers that take bass charters are generally not meat fisherman that travel up from NJ in white vans and try to justify their trip based one the pounds of fillet they take home with them. I find most of our clients want to take home fillets, but that's not the sole purpose of the trip (like Cod guys).
I really believe this, and its not like I'm some fly-rodding fish hugger - I'm normally on here explaining why commercial harvest is a good thing.
And for background, we're booked for bass trips 7 days a week all season. As long as the states stick together on 1 fish, we won't see a decline in charters.
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Obviously you have marketed well and provide a great experience for your charters . One thing often done too is to combine shark or tuna with striper on full days .
However there obviously are quite a few captains that feel this could really hurt them and if it won't hurt the recovery , which I believe it won't , then why gamble with their livelihood ? I guess I'm just a compassionate guy
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12-17-2014, 08:30 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
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Originally Posted by buckman
Obviously you have marketed well and provide a great experience for your charters . One thing often done too is to combine shark or tuna with striper on full days .
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Can't do it, unless you save the striped bass fishing for the end of the day. Its illegal to possess striped bass in Federal waters.
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12-16-2014, 09:13 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: CT
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Originally Posted by buckman
Two fish over 33" a day for every client including mate and crew isn't going to happen and any captain that tells you he can do it day after day is full of crap .
A lot of experts here but nobody really understands marketing. It's all about the perception and then sell the experience. Nobody's going on a six pack charter with the anticipation and excitement of catching 1/ 28 inch bass .
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Reread, and you are right. No one wants to keep a 28" bass and especially just one. It's small and doesn't yield much meat.
But it's a greater than 28" scenario, and it has been done before.
The unfortunate perception of the non fishing public is that the industry delivers 2 fish. The sentence that follows that statement which is unknown by the public is that it is ecologically sound to do so.
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12-17-2014, 07:55 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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Originally Posted by buckman
Nobody's going on a six pack charter with the anticipation and excitement of catching 1/ 28 inch bass .
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That is simply NOT true
I understand that if it is decided to allow 2 @33" then there is no sure bet that clients will get to catch 2 over 33" since it might be a bit more difficult to catch the larger size bass all depending on so many factors, location, weather,bait in the area, structure etc. but being on the water daily has it's advantages. It also is going to be harder to find the concentrations of bass seeing how there are fewer than there were just 5 years ago and that is a fact not an argument here.
I was at the meeting where almost unanimously 1 fish was voted on, only one guy was for 2
I thought there was another large meeting where it was decided 1 fish 28" coastwide but that was not final. Are they somehow going to flip now? pathetic
Again, going to 1 fish for all recs is NOT going to put anyone out of business
we all participated in the decline, we all need to participate in recovery. I am not buying that conservational equivalency crap, that is scientific voodoo bull.
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