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05-15-2016, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
And what none of you has touched upon, presumably because you can't argue that I'm wrong, is this...if you open up the ladies room to men who are trans, you cannot then prevent perverts and voyers from saying they are a tran, simply to gain access to the ladies rooms. So, regrettably, a small number of trans might have to be inconvenienced, to safeguard the privacy/safety of everyone else. We all have to make sacrifices for others.
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Jim, as you're a facts sort of guy try and find some that back up your assertion. You'll find plenty about how transgender people are harassed today and scant if any evidence these laws have been a problem in states where they've been implemented.
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05-15-2016, 10:15 AM
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Jim, as you're a facts sort of guy try and find some that back up your assertion. You'll find plenty about how transgender people are harassed today and scant if any evidence these laws have been a problem in states where they've been implemented.
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We talked about this. I googled 'woman assualted in restroom', and I got pages and pages of news stories. Opening up the ladies room to anyone who fancies going in there, increases the likelihood of these incidents. All you can do to respond, is offer vague denials that it happens. So clearly you ar enot a 'facts' kind of guy, unless the facts happen to support your agenda.
I have no doubt trannies get harassed in the mens room. It's not a perfect workd. We need to find the solution that stinks for the fewest number of people, and using that as a barometer, it's obvious.
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05-15-2016, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
We talked about this. I googled 'woman assualted in restroom', and I got pages and pages of news stories. Opening up the ladies room to anyone who fancies going in there, increases the likelihood of these incidents.
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If that was the case then there would be police records of increased incidences in states with anti-discriminatory laws...
...but there isn't.
I'd wager that the type of law NC put through would actually create a lot more harassment.
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05-15-2016, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
If that was the case then there would be police records of increased incidences in states with anti-discriminatory laws...
...but there isn't.
I'd wager that the type of law NC put through would actually create a lot more harassment.
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Let's be very clear on this (you don't like that, but let's try)...
You deny that opening up the ladies room to any man who want sto go in there, makes it easier for perverts to get in there? You deny that? Be very specific...
Many women doen't like the idea, Spence. Do they not have the right to feel secure in there.
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05-15-2016, 11:39 AM
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You'll find plenty about how transgender people are harassed today and scant if any evidence these laws have been a problem in states where they've been implemented.
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You can't legislate tolerance and acceptance.......#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s come in all shapes, sizes, and sexes......
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