Obama's VA Secretary says wait lines at VA Hosp are like wait lines at Disney

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

. I just see this as another Manufactured issue from the right .. just another topic that magically showed up when Obama took office..

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Thanks for making my point theses issues haven't magically appeared under current adminstration.

[scottw]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...eran/?page=all

https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczy...-reform-the-va

Obama 2014: "We'll keep slashing that backlog so our veterans receive the benefits they've earned, and our wounded warriors receive the healthcare, including the mental healthcare, that they need. We'll keep working to help all our veterans translate their skills and leadership into jobs here at home."

Reality: Obama's promise to reduce the backlog of benefits applications at the Department of Veterans Affairs preceded a period of intense scrutiny for the VA, coming less than three months before the national wait-time scandal was exposed. In April of that year, whistleblowers revealed 110 VA facilities around the country had created fake patient waiting lists to cover up long delays in care.

Nearly 850,000 veterans are still in the backlog waiting to be enrolled in the VA's benefits system, a process that must be completed before they can get in line to make an appointment with a doctor. That number is unchanged from 2012.

[wdmso]

So does the right have a plan for fixing the issue or is their plan only to blame the current administration for the problem ..

like the Current TSA outrage over several hours long lines

Again another thing that hasn't happen to me flying from Boston to Germany last year or Boston to miami and back this year 2 times no issues or i am the luckest guy in the VA and in a TSA line


looks like its its a few airports kinda like the VA a few places with big issues issues Shocking

[buckman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

So does the right have a plan for fixing the issue or is their plan only to blame the current administration for the problem ..

like the Current TSA outrage over several hours long lines

Again another thing that hasn't happen to me flying from Boston to Germany last year or Boston to miami and back this year 2 times no issues or i am the luckest guy in the VA and in a TSA line


looks like its its a few airports kinda like the VA a few places with big issues issues Shocking

Except people aren't dying in the TSA lines . You didn't learn at all did you ?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by buckman

Except people aren't dying in the TSA lines . You didn't learn at all did you ?
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In one case, a veteran who applied for VA care in 1998 was placed in "pending" status for 14 years. Another veteran who passed away in 1988 was found to have an unprocessed record lingering in 2014, the investigation found.


So theses people died 14 years later from lack of care ?? from the VA and never had any other medical choices like medicare or other choices

Seem's your making the claim the VA killed them for lack of medical
care.. I dont see that as the cause I see it as some applied and didn't follow up not all but most what was the ages of theses 307,000 deceased veterans .... ww2 korea era Vietnam current ? what did they die from did the get any treatment any place?

The VA's inspector general found that out of about 800,000 records stalled in the agency's system for managing health care enrollment, there were more than 307,000 records that belonged to veterans who had died months or years in the past.

their are issues no doubt and have been for decades but its not as you suggest

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Seem's your making the claim the VA killed them for lack of medical
care.. I dont see that

Well, CNN (which is not exactly a right-wing organization) does see it that way.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/23/health...ays/index.html

These problems existed before Obama took office. Many Americans think we should do whatever it takes to fix this, and the fact that we can't, shows how impotent our system currently is. Both sides share some blame.

I started this post becaise I found it appalling that McDonald compared (and he absolutely did compare) the effect of waiting in line for an hour at DisneyWorld, to the effect of waiting weeks for care at a Veterans hospital. It's shocking to me that any average idiot would say that. For the Secretary Of Veterans Affairs to say that? When he knows he's on camera?

Thank Christ it's almost over.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I started this post becaise I found it appalling that McDonald compared (and he absolutely did compare) the effect of waiting in line for an hour at DisneyWorld, to the effect of waiting weeks for care at a Veterans hospital.

No, he still didn't. Jim, if Buck and I agree on an issue that's a good sign to give up.

[Slipknot]

http://theantimedia.org/va-veteran-s...ied-treatment/

I guess you would be lucky to be seen in Providence or Boston, but this poor guy in New York was not treated well at all. This should never happen.
Sad story, extremely sad

RIP soldier, thank you for your service

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

So does the right have a plan for fixing the issue or is their plan only to blame the current administration for the problem ..

I guess you'd have to ask "the right"...

the current administration and specifically did Obama did a lot of their own criticizing and made quite a few promises that have not come to fruition which is why they are currently receiving their own criticism...it actually makes sense

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

I guess you'd have to ask "the right"...

the current administration and specifically did Obama did a lot of their own criticizing and made quite a few promises that have not come to fruition which is why they are currently receiving their own criticism...it actually makes sense

not against criticizing but I see congress inability to give the POTUS a bill to sign to fix the issues and the one he was given and signed for vets to use local doctors had 10 days to be started and is a total disaster

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articl...compared-to-va

http://www.militarytimes.com/story/v...gram/84869924/

[scottw]

[QUOTE=wdmso;1101251]not against criticizing but I see congress inability to give the POTUS a bill to sign



since when does Obama need a bill or congress?

great line in one of those articles

"For example, our research has shown that only 35 percent of veterans living far from VA facilities live within 40 miles of a private sector oncologist, meaning that veterans with cancer who live far from VA are more likely than not to live far from the care they need, regardless of who provides that care. Whether the Veterans Choice program increases access for veterans living in rural and remote areas, especially for those in need of specialty care, is unknown."


after reading this nonsense I'm "more likely than not" dismissing the entire article