G20 Summit

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Huh?

Dude, you are making me defend Trump here - not something I aspire to do. FDact is I am waiting to see if there is a sleight of hand, a last millisecond shift from the meatball driving right down the sweet spot of the plate.

Obama was a socialistic and a communist but never hung out with them

Obama is well know for associating with communists / socialists / radicals

Simple concept did canaditate Obama meet with praise the Russians or his campaign people?... No

Did canaditate Trump meet with or praise the Russians or his campaign people yes

Hence hung out with

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Simple concept did canaditate Obama meet with praise the Russians or his campaign people?... No

Did canaditate Trump meet with or praise the Russians or his campaign people yes

Hence hung out with

Obama started out with praise for Putin (ibtimes 1/9/17):

President Barack Obama first met Russian President Vladimir Putin in July/2009 at Putin’s Dacha, or country home, outside of Moscow, and in spite of the tensions between the two leaders, the men spoke optimistically of a new relationship between their countries.
Obama told Putin, who was then serving as prime minister under his handpicked presidential successor Dmitry Medvedev, that he was aware of “the extraordinary work that you’ve done on behalf of the Russian people,” and that “We think there’s an excellent opportunity to put U.S.-Russian relations on a much stronger footing.” Putin responded to Obama that, “With you we link all our hopes for the furtherance of relations between our two countries.”

There was even a "reset" in relations with Russia during the Obama Presidency handled by his SecState Hillary.

Things changed in the relationship as relations are wont to do. The same will probably happen between Trump and Russia. There are signs they already have. Among other things, Trump's speech in Poland most certainly was not welcomed by Putin.

Get all the facts together, don't just cherry pick or, as you put it, "deflect."

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Obama started out with praise for Putin (ibtimes 1/9/17):

President Barack Obama first met Russian President Vladimir Putin in July/2009 at Putin’s Dacha, or country home, outside of Moscow, and in spite of the tensions between the two leaders, the men spoke optimistically of a new relationship between their countries.
Obama told Putin, who was then serving as prime minister under his handpicked presidential successor Dmitry Medvedev, that he was aware of “the extraordinary work that you’ve done on behalf of the Russian people,” and that “We think there’s an excellent opportunity to put U.S.-Russian relations on a much stronger footing.” Putin responded to Obama that, “With you we link all our hopes for the furtherance of relations between our two countries.”

There was even a "reset" in relations with Russia during the Obama Presidency handled by his SecState Hillary.

Things changed in the relationship as relations are wont to do. The same will probably happen between Trump and Russia. There are signs they already have. Among other things, Trump's speech in Poland most certainly was not welcomed by Putin.

Get all the facts together, don't just cherry pick or, as you put it, "deflect."

Was this before they invaded ukraine Seems you need to put your facts with a time line of world events ... it matters As Trump plays nice with Putin its about facts and time lines .. as well

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Simple concept did canaditate Obama meet with praise the Russians or his campaign people?... No


Hence hung out with

"HANGIN' OUT"

President Obama got caught in private conversation with a hot mic today in Seoul, South Korea, telling outgoing Russian president Dmitry Medvedev that Vladimir Putin should give him more "space" and that "[a]fter my election I have more flexibility."

Jake Tapper has the exchange:

President Obama: "On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it’s important for him to give me space."

President Medvedev: "Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you…"

President Obama: "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility."

President Medvedev: "I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir, and I stand with you."

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

"HANGIN' OUT"

President Obama got caught in private conversation with a hot mic today in Seoul, South Korea, telling outgoing Russian president Dmitry Medvedev that Vladimir Putin should give him more "space" and that "[a]fter my election I have more flexibility."

Jake Tapper has the exchange:

President Obama: "On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it’s important for him to give me space."

President Medvedev: "Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you…"

President Obama: "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility."

President Medvedev: "I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir, and I stand with you."

is this your gotcha quote? and are they the same thing one president asking an out going one to give a message to the new one Theses issues can be solved ??? and he still got reelected no scandal no collusion suggestions ...

not sure how you see that and possibly having the Russians intentionally mess in our elections .. and Trumps people and himself asking for their help “I will tell you this, Russia: If you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,”


Russian agents hacked the Democratic National Committee’s email account in a bid to disrupt the 2016 election. This claim has been affirmed by every branch of the American national security state, virtually every member of Congress from either party


Trump is arguing that the Democratic National Committee — and, later, Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta — deliberately allowed their politically damaging emails to be hacked and published, so that they would have a ready-made excuse for losing the election. Thanks to their friends in the “deep state,” this worked. And now, the FBI, CIA, NSA, Pentagon, top White House national security officials, and entire Republican Party are carrying water for this Democratic hoax.

Sure they are the same thing

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

is this your gotcha quote?

this would be secret collusion with the Russians intending and expressing the willingness to avoid/side step congress....

Obama also secretly colluded with the Iranians....which confirmed that he was perfectly willing to do the above

the Russians and Iranians both ran rings around feckless Obama and his arrogant naiveté.....


and who could forget "Pictured together, Hillary Clinton, her husband and the Chinese billionaire accused of being front for Communist bid to influence election"


these things bother me as much if not more than anything Trump has been shown to be involved in .....


you constantly move the bar to suit your arguments....very "Trumpian"