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07-11-2017, 10:30 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Agreed, which is why you get a better sense of how Trump really thinks in the question and answer sessions or in the daily tweets. Frankly Trump alienating the media isn't my concern, he isn't the first Potus to do so, I'm more concerns about the impact to our relationship with our allies.
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07-11-2017, 12:31 PM
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there is so much noise and panic every time he blinks an eye...it's hard to tell what is really going on which is as you point out likely by design
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07-11-2017, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
there is so much noise and panic every time he blinks an eye...
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It is incredible, how much energy the media is devoting to making him out to be a James Bond villain. If the subsequent congressional special elections are any measure, it's not having the desired effect.
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07-11-2017, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
It is incredible, how much energy the media is devoting to making him out to be a James Bond villain. If the subsequent congressional special elections are any measure, it's not having the desired effect.
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Thats funny he and he alone is the reason for the coverage .. Trump it's not having the desired effect.
here we go with the media is out to get Trump .. More fake new I guess Trump Jr emails show Russia communication
More like Trumps make America great again plan it's not having the desired effect.
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07-11-2017, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
here we go with the media is out to get Trump .. More fake new I guess Trump Jr emails show Russia communication
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There doesn't appear to be anything illegal once again . Maybe you could've recommended he delete emails instead of releasing them ...
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07-12-2017, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by buckman
There doesn't appear to be anything illegal once again . Maybe you could've recommended he delete emails instead of releasing them ...
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See, this is where the genius of Hillary shines. If you keep your e-mail server in the broom closet it throws the whole concept of non-repudiation right out the window.. 
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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07-12-2017, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
See, this is where the genius of Hillary shines. If you keep your e-mail server in the broom closet it throws the whole concept of non-repudiation right out the window.. 
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Don't forget to delete the suspicious ones!
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07-12-2017, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
There doesn't appear to be anything illegal once again . Maybe you could've recommended he delete emails instead of releasing them ...
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you guys love deflection dont you ... Not sure how red blooded Americans are still more outraged of Her email server then
Trumps Russian issues that are like an Onion many Layers and keep coming ..
So lets get this straight... Obama was a socialistic and a communist but never hung out with them
But Trump and his circle hang out with socialistic communists and Conservatives insist there is nothing to See... that Just Amazing 
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07-12-2017, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
So lets get this straight... Obama was a socialistic and a communist but never hung out with them
But Trump and his circle hang out with socialistic communists and Conservatives insist there is nothing to See... that Just Amazing 
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huh?? 
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07-12-2017, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
you guys love deflection dont you ... Not sure how red blooded Americans are still more outraged of Her email server then
Trumps Russian issues that are like an Onion many Layers and keep coming ..
Hillary's email server wasn't a mere layer of an onion. It was the onion. It was a fact.
Trump's so-called issues are being manufactured into "issues." All of life, including yours, if you are not a perfect being but merely human, is composed of layers of "onion," layers of "issues" that are real or imagined depending on who narrates them, and that keep unfolding until you are no more. At this point in the supposed peeling, Trump's layers are not proven to be connected to the desired big "onion" which itself has not been proven to exist.
So lets get this straight... Obama was a socialistic and a communist but never hung out with them
Actually he did more than "hang out" with them. He was raised by them. And his socialistic (Progressive) philosophy on governing certainly has not rejected his "hanging out" with communists and socialists.
But Trump and his circle hang out with socialistic communists and Conservatives insist there is nothing to See... that Just Amazing 
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Not getting a clear picture of what you mean by "hang out." Trump has "hung out" with a whole lot of capitalists. A lot more than with socialists and communists. And his "hanging out" with Commies has not yet reached the volume of Hillary's or Obama's "hanging out" with them.
The Commies do exist. And they certainly "hang out" around the world . . . just about everywhere. And are extremely influential. And have a lot of impact on world affairs. Kind of hard to avoid them. Might not be prudent to avoid "hanging out" with them from time to time . . . as most of our politicians and Presidents do.
Not sure what you got "straight" with your "hang out" meme. Doesn't make sense. Seems to "deflect", as you put it.
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07-12-2017, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Thats funny he and he alone is the reason for the coverage .. Trump it's not having the desired effect.
here we go with the media is out to get Trump .. More fake new I guess Trump Jr emails show Russia communication
More like Trumps make America great again plan it's not having the desired effect.
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Trump is not having the desired effect? There have been 4 special elections since he took over. Two of them, the democrats and the media said were going to be a referendum on trump. Do you know what the results were?
I have said many times he's not a good guy, and he brings much of the criticism on himself. But not all of it. The media is out of the news business and in the "let's get trump" business.
If you think I am a trump apologist, think again, I dislike him. but if he ran against Hilary tomorrow, I'd vote for him in a second
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07-12-2017, 02:10 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Trump is not having the desired effect? There have been 4 special elections since he took over. Two of them, the democrats and the media said were going to be a referendum on trump. Do you know what the results were?
I have said many times he's not a good guy, and he brings much of the criticism on himself. But not all of it. The media is out of the news business and in the "let's get trump" business.
If you think I am a trump apologist, think again, I dislike him. but if he ran against Hilary tomorrow, I'd vote for him in a second
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I would be so interesting if you could step back in time and he didn't use tweeter, he relied heavily on his cabinet to work as a team and if there was a question about Russia and meetings; the entire team put it all on the table stating; look we are hear to get to work do with this what you want we have things to do.
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07-11-2017, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
I'm more concerns about the impact to our relationship with our allies.
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That is absolutely worth discussing and maybe worth being concerned about.
However, Obama was supposed to be the one that would make the whole world love us (by telling everyone that we aren't anything special), and I don't know that it worked. So if Obama's message of "America isn't any better than anyplace else" didn't make the world love us, hopefully Trump's message of "we rule, you suck" won't create many more enemies.
I don't think too many countries pledge loyalty to the US because of who happens to be in the Oval Office. I have to think that most countries choose to be our allies, because they know it's in their interest to do so, and hopefully that doesn't depend upon how big of a jerk is in the Oval Office. Right now, it's a really big jerk.
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