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Rod Building So, you've landed a nice fish on a plug you made, eh? Now, the next step, building your own RODS! |
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11-04-2017, 08:13 AM
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Drew
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 393
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This winters builds
I have 2 cts blanks on order, 11’ VT 3-6 & 4-8. I’m already thinking about guide layouts for those. I might try the RVs.
2 cts flyrods 9 & 10wts will be some.
And finally, a few conventional boat rods that have been half done for 2 years. Maybe I will get to finish them this year.
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Drew
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11-04-2017, 10:09 AM
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Chris Blouin
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Warren, RI
Posts: 3,330
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I loved my cts vt 4-8, rod threw loaded redfins to 6oz and whole 18” eel while shark fishing.
Heard the 3-6 is a great rod as well, couple buddies have it and love it
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11-04-2017, 08:06 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
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Those RV guides worked well on a couple 9 & 10' rods with VS & VR150. See no reason with the 25 pushed out 34-36" a 2.5 - 2.75" spool wouldn't work. I have a CTS 903-1 to build and. 10' 1003-1. Not for me but a friend. I think he's using ZB22.
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11-04-2017, 10:48 PM
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Chris Blouin
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Warren, RI
Posts: 3,330
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Only have a few rods planned
Lami honey 136, cut to 10’6” going to build it for a drilled out custom penn I scored, will be a nice beach/back bay pencil rod/metal lip/soft plastics
Looking at the ODM nex1 11’ 2-6 as a possible build for the surf
Need to build some designated canal rods, century 1329 and ODM jigster
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11-05-2017, 01:14 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
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I have an old 40+ 1363m cut to 10'6". Was my first rod wrap redo. It's a beast. Use it now very sparingly for chunking. No reel seat and 6 guide cone of flight. Started out as my plugging but no longer as these arms age.
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11-05-2017, 06:59 AM
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Drew
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 393
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I have the odm nex1 3/4-4 and it is a very nice rod.
The rod that I’ve been using most of the fall was a ~11’6” 2-4 VT. It was formerly 12’ that I absolutely hated. Way too light at the tip. I ended up taking about 6” off the tip and luckily that worked.
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11-05-2017, 08:05 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
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Drew what size tip tube did u end up using after the cut? I cut back a members 4-8 which snapped the tip off. Once I got back to a non shredded spot then proportioned the second guide distance , I ended up using a #9 tube tip. I feels beefier but not like a telephone pole. I feel this may be an improvement over the stock dimention , especially with heavier loads. The length decreased by approximately 5".
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Billy D.
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11-05-2017, 08:11 AM
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Drew
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 393
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I think it was a 7 to start and then an 8 after trimming.
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11-23-2017, 10:43 AM
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Drew
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 393
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i just oredered the components for this. both blanks will have rv set-ups (rv25-16) then kw10-kw/kt8 for runners. the 3-6 will have the kt, the 4-8 the kw.
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Drew
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11-23-2017, 03:19 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
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Interested how the big spools cast thru the 25. I have an extra kw10m for the third reduction guide.
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11-23-2017, 05:17 PM
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Drew
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 393
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the 10 above is actually a 'm'.
the one that i did for a vs200 last year is fine, that was 25-12-8m-8 runners.
some of the guides are on backorder. i'm hoping that the blanks ship before the holidays so i can start right after teh new year.
ps - when i was thinking about using the the kl's on the build i did last year the ring size was a concern. deep down i still think about the old cof rods, ~5 guides - 40-30-25-20-16-tip... going with the smaller guides does still seem foreign to me. a few things were 'comforting' tho. if i were using kw's i'd be starting with a 30, the kl/rv 25 is only 3.7mm shorter in overall height but the bottom of the ring is slightly higher with the kl/rv vs the kw. so, the ring size is small and the guide slightly shorter but it does keep the line a bit more off the blank.
i will play around with the builds but i think in the end casting will be at best equal and maybe better than the kw.
but it still doesn't seem right to me. old habits die hard.
Last edited by Fergal; 11-23-2017 at 08:19 PM..
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Drew
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12-11-2017, 07:52 AM
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Drew
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 393
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some of the components are here, still waiting on the blanks. if the blanks don't ship in ~the next week it will be after the holidays.
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Drew
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12-11-2017, 09:27 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
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Should be a sweet build. I did a FiberStar for Rob with the titanium RV 's.
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12-12-2017, 08:24 AM
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All up in the Interweb!
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: In the dog house.
Posts: 5,198
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I have 2, maybe 3 builds that I would like to get to this year. I have a CTS VT 4-8 blank that JLH wants as a back-up. For myself I am still considering an ODM Jigster for big stuff. I fished a factory build a few times this fall and liked the range it could throw but was not very happy with the build itself so I am hoping that building it "my way" will fix my concerns. Also been wanting to build a Lami BT 108 3M for several years but haven't been able to find one to actually put in my hands to verify that it is in fact what I want.
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"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
- a wise man.
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
Certified rock hopping billy goat.
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12-17-2017, 08:34 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
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Toby, is the VT old 1 piece or the spigot style ?
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Billy D.
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12-17-2017, 02:53 PM
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Drew
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 393
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got all the guides for the 4-8 (pics below). the remaining guides for the 3-6 have shipped. now all i need are the blanks... i'm guessing it will be january at this point since cts is supposed to close for the holidays.
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Drew
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12-18-2017, 07:14 AM
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All up in the Interweb!
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: In the dog house.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pbadad
Toby, is the VT old 1 piece or the spigot style ?
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The 1-piece blank.
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Co-Host of The Surfcast Podcast
"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
- a wise man.
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
Certified rock hopping billy goat.
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12-18-2017, 06:25 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
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1 piece. Nice. I sold my last one. Have a spigot here. I'll install spigot inside reel seat dimensions. It s the first design split at 24". Now CTS ships no lengths over 3 meters and places spigot @28". For the most parts, that should work for majority of people . Should place reel stem in the 26"range.
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12-18-2017, 07:17 PM
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Drew
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 393
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Should have picked one (more) of the 1pc blanks along the wAy.
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12-18-2017, 07:35 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
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Drew, all ti frames?
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Billy D.
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12-19-2017, 07:35 AM
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Drew
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 393
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pbadad
Drew, all ti frames?
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yes
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Drew
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12-19-2017, 10:06 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergal
yes
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That is going to feel light air. If it was a 2 piece VT,, the tip section would weigh under 3oz. Using a 200 for reel?
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Billy D.
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12-19-2017, 11:26 AM
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Drew
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 393
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i'm going to try a few different reels on the 3-6: vs200, saltiga 4500 & 5500. i'm hoping to find a compromise that will work with all three reels.
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Drew
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12-25-2017, 09:53 AM
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Drew
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 393
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from last year, for wt comparison - kw30-25-20-12-8*4-tip, torzite.
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Drew
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12-25-2017, 05:46 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
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Amazing 23 gr difference. 3/4 oz.
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12-28-2017, 07:24 AM
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Drew
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 393
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The handle on the 10wt is done. I'm going to do the 9wt handle next, then wrap. The cork work makes too much of a mess to have to clean up twice.
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Drew
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12-28-2017, 05:38 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
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Very nice contours. I also have to make a blind to keep dust going into vac.
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12-28-2017, 06:18 PM
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Drew
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 393
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I should probably do that. It makes a hell of a mess without own.
A hell of a mess...
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01-02-2018, 09:46 PM
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Drew
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 393
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the handle for the 9wt is glued up. the butt and reelseat went on tonight. slowly making progress.
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Drew
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01-06-2018, 04:32 PM
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Drew
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 393
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Still need to do a little more work but they're good enough for now.
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Drew
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