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01-19-2018, 04:24 PM
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01-19-2018, 04:36 PM
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apple had the money to do this 10 years ago ... love how Republicans love PR stunts and tout them as signs of change .. and 1 dollar an hours a game changes in the life of someone who was just making 8 buck an hour .. are clueless
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01-19-2018, 05:00 PM
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apple had the money to do this 10 years ago ... love how Republicans love PR stunts and tout them as signs of change .. and 1 dollar an hours a game changes in the life of someone who was just making 8 buck an hour .. are clueless
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Why is Comcast (the company that owns MSNBC) doing it now? Does the CEO of Comcast (the guy who signs Rachael Maddow's paycheck) want to make Trump look good?
Of course they could have done it before. But they were finally incentivized to do it, with the tax reform.
If you think a tax windfall of $38 billion and 20,000 new jobs is a PR stunt, you can think that. You look very foolish to say that, in my opinion.
"and 1 dollar an hours a game changes in the life of someone who was just making 8 buck an hour "
if you work 2,000 hours a year, than a $1/hr a raise is a $2,000 gross bump in salary. In addition, these people will pay a lower tax rate. than they did last year. So not only does their gross pay increase, they keep a higher percentage of their gross pay, so that's a double benefit. They keep a higher percentage of each dollar, and they have more dollars of pay.
It's not going to end poverty. Not even close. But please tell me, what Obama did in 8 years, that did more for these people?
Have fun answering that...
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01-19-2018, 06:52 PM
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and 1 dollar an hours a game changes in the life of someone who was just making 8 buck an hour .. are clueless
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It's a 12.5% raise. I wish I got one of those.
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01-19-2018, 07:04 PM
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It's a 12.5% raise. I wish I got one of those.
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Previous minimum was 10 I believe. So no...
Maybe they can get off foodstamps?
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01-19-2018, 07:13 PM
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Previous minimum was 10 I believe. So no...
Maybe they can get off foodstamps?
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Wdmso stated $8...a dollar an hour is 12.5% stop changing facts
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01-19-2018, 07:18 PM
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Wdmso stated $8...a dollar an hour is 12.5% stop changing facts
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Funny now you're citing Wdmso as the source of public record 
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01-19-2018, 07:24 PM
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Funny now you're citing Wdmso as the source of public record 
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I'm doing simple math.
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01-20-2018, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Wdmso stated $8...a dollar an hour is 12.5% stop changing facts
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8 to 9 - 9 to 10 or 10 to 11 dollars as I said if you think that a 1 dollar raise. is so how a great thing for people who cant find full time work or companys who wont give full time hours. its because your not making min wage
Congress hasn't voted to raise the minimum wage in more than a decade.
Missouri, for example, the minimum wage will rise from $7.70 an hour to $7.85 an hour in 2018, a slight uptick said to account for inflation.
Facts are facts every one is not seeing a dollar
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01-20-2018, 06:05 PM
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if apple was free
i wouldn't touch it
with a ten foot pole
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01-19-2018, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Previous minimum was 10 I believe. So no...
Maybe they can get off foodstamps?
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They pay higher than state minimum wage? You sure?
Best way to get off foodstamps is to acquire skills that give you ore options than being a cashier or a greeter.
I'll ask you what I asked WDMSO. What did Obama do that was better for these people, than what the GOP did?
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01-19-2018, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I'll ask you what I asked WDMSO. What did Obama do that was better for these people, than what the GOP did?
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I dunno, invested in the recovery act to save the economy from a deeper recession, got millions of poorer people access to health care they didn't have, helped shore policy to increase income for the bottom, etc... etc...
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01-19-2018, 10:57 PM
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I dunno, invested in the recovery act to save the economy from a deeper recession, got millions of poorer people access to health care they didn't have, helped shore policy to increase income for the bottom, etc... etc...
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" invested in the recovery act to save the economy from a deeper recession"
The act that he said would keep unemployment under 8%, and it went above 10% instead? That act? How many people benefitted directly from that? And who are they?
"helped shore policy to increase income for the bottom"
See if you can be a bit more vague and evasive?
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01-19-2018, 10:57 PM
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I dunno, invested in the recovery act to save the economy from a deeper recession, got millions of poorer people access to health care they didn't have, helped shore policy to increase income for the bottom, etc... etc...
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"I dunno"
The only true thing in your post, you might have stopped there.
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01-20-2018, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
They pay higher than state minimum wage? You sure?
Best way to get off foodstamps is to acquire skills that give you ore options than being a cashier or a greeter.
I'll ask you what I asked WDMSO. What did Obama do that was better for these people, than what the GOP did?
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the GOP gave away billions of dollars to companys who have all ways had the money to pay employees better ..
these announcements are propaganda they are stroking Trumps ego you ve seen what happens when he dosn't get praise from thoses he feels should bend a knee to him
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01-20-2018, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
the GOP gave away billions of dollars to companys who have all ways had the money to pay employees better ..
these announcements are propaganda they are stroking Trumps ego you ve seen what happens when he dosn't get praise from thoses he feels should bend a knee to him
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First, I asked you what obama did that was better for the working poor than the gop tax overhaul. You chose not to answer, which means you can’t think of anything, but you aren’t capable of admitting that I have a point.
Second, allowing the owners of a company to keep more of what is theirs, is not “giving” them something. There is a meaningful difference between giving something to someone that wasn’t theirs, and confiscating less of what was theirs. Liberals often confuse those very different things.
The companies are stroking trumps ego? Comcast announced 50 billion in infastructure spending. Comcast owns MSNBC. So you are telling us, that the ceo of Comcast who signs Rachael Maddow’s paycheck, is spending 50 billion as a PR stunt to help Trump? The man who owns MSNBC is trying to help Trump? That’s what you’re saying?
Wow.
Would it kill you to admit that yes, while the gop tax plan will help the wealthy, it’s also helping the average working Joe, too? Are you afraid you’d explode if you admitted that?
The fact that the democrats opposed this, isn’t going to help them in November.
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