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01-19-2018, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
It's a 12.5% raise. I wish I got one of those.
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Previous minimum was 10 I believe. So no...
Maybe they can get off foodstamps?
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01-19-2018, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Previous minimum was 10 I believe. So no...
Maybe they can get off foodstamps?
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Wdmso stated $8...a dollar an hour is 12.5% stop changing facts
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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01-19-2018, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Wdmso stated $8...a dollar an hour is 12.5% stop changing facts
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Funny now you're citing Wdmso as the source of public record 
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01-19-2018, 07:24 PM
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Funny now you're citing Wdmso as the source of public record 
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I'm doing simple math.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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01-19-2018, 07:24 PM
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I'm doing simple math.
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The problem with simple math is if your variables are all wrong the product doesn't make any sense.
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01-19-2018, 08:13 PM
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I'm doing simple math.
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I think Walmart is moving everyone to a minimum of 11/hr. Not sure what everyone is at now, I had heard that they went according to statewide minimum wages.
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01-20-2018, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Wdmso stated $8...a dollar an hour is 12.5% stop changing facts
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8 to 9 - 9 to 10 or 10 to 11 dollars as I said if you think that a 1 dollar raise. is so how a great thing for people who cant find full time work or companys who wont give full time hours. its because your not making min wage
Congress hasn't voted to raise the minimum wage in more than a decade.
Missouri, for example, the minimum wage will rise from $7.70 an hour to $7.85 an hour in 2018, a slight uptick said to account for inflation.
Facts are facts every one is not seeing a dollar
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01-20-2018, 06:05 PM
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if apple was free
i wouldn't touch it
with a ten foot pole
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01-19-2018, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Previous minimum was 10 I believe. So no...
Maybe they can get off foodstamps?
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They pay higher than state minimum wage? You sure?
Best way to get off foodstamps is to acquire skills that give you ore options than being a cashier or a greeter.
I'll ask you what I asked WDMSO. What did Obama do that was better for these people, than what the GOP did?
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01-19-2018, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I'll ask you what I asked WDMSO. What did Obama do that was better for these people, than what the GOP did?
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I dunno, invested in the recovery act to save the economy from a deeper recession, got millions of poorer people access to health care they didn't have, helped shore policy to increase income for the bottom, etc... etc...
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01-19-2018, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I dunno, invested in the recovery act to save the economy from a deeper recession, got millions of poorer people access to health care they didn't have, helped shore policy to increase income for the bottom, etc... etc...
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" invested in the recovery act to save the economy from a deeper recession"
The act that he said would keep unemployment under 8%, and it went above 10% instead? That act? How many people benefitted directly from that? And who are they?
"helped shore policy to increase income for the bottom"
See if you can be a bit more vague and evasive?
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01-19-2018, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I dunno, invested in the recovery act to save the economy from a deeper recession, got millions of poorer people access to health care they didn't have, helped shore policy to increase income for the bottom, etc... etc...
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"I dunno"
The only true thing in your post, you might have stopped there.
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01-20-2018, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
They pay higher than state minimum wage? You sure?
Best way to get off foodstamps is to acquire skills that give you ore options than being a cashier or a greeter.
I'll ask you what I asked WDMSO. What did Obama do that was better for these people, than what the GOP did?
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the GOP gave away billions of dollars to companys who have all ways had the money to pay employees better ..
these announcements are propaganda they are stroking Trumps ego you ve seen what happens when he dosn't get praise from thoses he feels should bend a knee to him
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01-20-2018, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
the GOP gave away billions of dollars to companys who have all ways had the money to pay employees better ..
these announcements are propaganda they are stroking Trumps ego you ve seen what happens when he dosn't get praise from thoses he feels should bend a knee to him
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First, I asked you what obama did that was better for the working poor than the gop tax overhaul. You chose not to answer, which means you can’t think of anything, but you aren’t capable of admitting that I have a point.
Second, allowing the owners of a company to keep more of what is theirs, is not “giving” them something. There is a meaningful difference between giving something to someone that wasn’t theirs, and confiscating less of what was theirs. Liberals often confuse those very different things.
The companies are stroking trumps ego? Comcast announced 50 billion in infastructure spending. Comcast owns MSNBC. So you are telling us, that the ceo of Comcast who signs Rachael Maddow’s paycheck, is spending 50 billion as a PR stunt to help Trump? The man who owns MSNBC is trying to help Trump? That’s what you’re saying?
Wow.
Would it kill you to admit that yes, while the gop tax plan will help the wealthy, it’s also helping the average working Joe, too? Are you afraid you’d explode if you admitted that?
The fact that the democrats opposed this, isn’t going to help them in November.
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01-20-2018, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
First, I asked you what obama did that was better for the working poor than the gop tax overhaul.
Would it kill you to admit that yes, while the gop tax plan will help the wealthy, it’s also helping the average working Joe, too? Are you afraid you’d explode if you admitted that?
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8 years of Obama is why the economic out look is better
Not because of Trumps tax break .. the gop helped the wealthy as soon as it passed .. your trickle down hasn't helped the avg working Joe ... as you suggest let's see in 4 year when there is data aka facts to support your suggestion
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01-20-2018, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
8 years of Obama is why the economic out look is better
Not because of Trumps tax break .. the gop helped the wealthy as soon as it passed .. your trickle down hasn't helped the avg working Joe ... as you suggest let's see in 4 year when there is data aka facts to support your suggestion
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All. Heard during the obama years was that people at the bottom missed out on the recovery. Specifically what did obama do that helps these people more than tax reform?
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01-21-2018, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
All. Heard during the obama years was that people at the bottom missed out on the recovery. Specifically what did obama do that helps these people more than tax reform?
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Again you assume this Tax cut is going to help those at the bottom overnight where the 8 year recover has clearly helped those at the top disproportionately to those on the bottom ..
and your Tax cut has done the same over night...clearly helped those at the top disproportionately to those on the bottom .. the tax cut they changed the rules for so it would pass ..or the only way it would pass with less than 60 votes 51-48 Vote unlike ACA you use alot but which passed with in the rules 60-39
But you seem to avoid this truth with great effort
but will champion the stock market today but before Trump took office it didnt count just like the unemployment numbers or job growth numbers which were labeled as fake .. but Magically under Trump and republicans Now they count and mean something
Only 44 percent of private sector workers participate in a defined contribution plan.
why do you think that Why Americans saving so little for retirement? There are a few reasons:
-They simply are too broke to save
-The stock market has turned into a wild casino
-Many options within 401ks are loaded with wild expenses that eat away at your returns
-Lack of financial literacy
Last edited by wdmso; 01-21-2018 at 11:12 AM..
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01-20-2018, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
8 years of Obama is why the economic out look is better
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that's pretty funny
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01-21-2018, 10:52 AM
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that's pretty funny
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funny but true .. and in 3 years there will be data to see the True Trump affect good or bad
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