American job openings outnumber the jobless, first time ever recorded

[The Dad Fisherman]

Did you really just say “What’s the point?”

Serenity Now

How about people can have some self respect and earn their paycheck instead of getting a handout.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Did you really just say “What’s the point?”

Serenity Now

How about people can have some self respect and earn their paycheck instead of getting a handout.
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Serenity now, serenity now!!!

Liberals don’t really differentiate between earning a paycheck and getting a welfare check.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Did you really just say “What’s the point?”

Serenity Now

How about people can have some self respect and earn their paycheck instead of getting a handout.
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whats the point of having this shortage of works wink wink if wages dont go UP? you worry to much about thoses who you see getting a hand out ... when the vast majority have self respect and earn their paycheck ... but they are not sharing in the profits of this recovery .. the mantra of business and the right is STFU and be thankfull you get a pay check at all

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

whats the point of having this shortage of works wink wink if wages dont go UP? you worry to much about thoses who you see getting a hand out ... when the vast majority have self respect and earn their paycheck ... but they are not sharing in the profits of this recovery .. the mantra of business and the right is STFU and be thankfull you get a pay check at all

"the vast majority have self respect and earn their paycheck ... but they are not sharing in the profits of this recovery "

The 'vast majority' are not economically better off today than they were the day before Trump took the oath? How can you say that? More are working, wages are increasing (I posted a link showing that), everyone's tax rates are lower, and anyone who has money in the stock market is obviously better off?

How can you say the 'vast majority' aren't participating in the recovery?

"the mantra of business and the right is STFU and be thankfull you get a pay check at all"

I don't know any businesses or republicans who say anything like that.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"the vast majority have self respect and earn their paycheck ... but they are not sharing in the profits of this recovery "

The 'vast majority' are not economically better off today than they were the day before Trump took the oath? How can you say that? More are working, wages are increasing (I posted a link showing that), everyone's tax rates are lower, and anyone who has money in the stock market is obviously better off?

How can you say the 'vast majority' aren't participating in the recovery?

"the mantra of business and the right is STFU and be thankfull you get a pay check at all"

I don't know any businesses or republicans who say anything like that.

How can I say ....because it's not happening crumbs don't equal a cake .. and your not paying attention to their message if you think that's not their message

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

whats the point of having this shortage of works wink wink if wages dont go UP?

Well if you have 2 jobs available and only 1 person available to fill it, he's probably going to select the job with better pay/benefits. So the company that isn't recuiting enough people, better up their wages/benefits to attract people to their company, or risk a downturn in their business.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Well if you have 2 jobs available and only 1 person available to fill it, he's probably going to select the job with better pay/benefits. So the company that isn't recuiting enough people, better up their wages/benefits to attract people to their company, or risk a downturn in their business.

Geez, when you put it that way, it sounds like common sense and basic supply/demand.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Geez, when you put it that way, it sounds like common sense and basic supply/demand.

Every once in awhile I have a lucid moment

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Well if you have 2 jobs available and only 1 person available to fill it, he's probably going to select the job with better pay/benefits. So the company that isn't recuiting enough people, better up their wages/benefits to attract people to their company, or risk a downturn in their business.

In a perfect world.. but that hasn't been the case

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

In a perfect world.. but that hasn't been the case

Sure it has, you just weren't paying attention.
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[zimmy]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Sure it has, you just weren't paying attention.
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Who wasn't paying attention? Real data contradicts your statement. Wage growth has been and continues to be low.

"The modest increase in annual raises would seem to defy Economics 101. The unemployment rate has been below 5% since May 2016. Many companies are having a hard time filling positions, particularly for skilled workers. Typically, when the demand for workers grows, wages go up.

One possible explanation: Older workers are retiring and being replaced by younger workers who earn less, which drags down the aggregate increase. Another factor: Many employers are no longer offering equal raises. "

https://www.kiplinger.com/article/bu...s-in-2018.html

also https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...-bigger-raises

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Who wasn't paying attention? Real data contradicts your statement. Wage growth has been and continues to be low.

"The modest increase in annual raises would seem to defy Economics 101. The unemployment rate has been below 5% since May 2016. Many companies are having a hard time filling positions, particularly for skilled workers. Typically, when the demand for workers grows, wages go up.

One possible explanation: Older workers are retiring and being replaced by younger workers who earn less, which drags down the aggregate increase. Another factor: Many employers are no longer offering equal raises. "

https://www.kiplinger.com/article/bu...s-in-2018.html

also https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...-bigger-raises

1st raises and new job salaries are 2 different things. Once an employer hires you raises are not going to align with what new hires are going to receive as the demand increases

2nd this is from one of the articles you posted

“The first quarter of 2018 did see substantial compensation increases — an annualized rate of almost 4 percent.”

Which aligns with what we were saying about as the demand for skilled workers increases the compensation increases

3rd your post even reiterates what we said

“Typically, when the demand for workers grows, wages go up.”

And even gives a reason why it may be slow through this cycle. Inexperienced people, who do not command as high a salary, as the experienced people who are retiring did.

It also doesn’t happen immediately, the wage decrease that occurred when the dot-com bubble burst took a few years to correct itself and now developers are reaping increased compensation.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

whats the point of having this shortage of works wink wink if wages dont go UP? you worry to much about thoses who you see getting a hand out ... when the vast majority have self respect and earn their paycheck ... but they are not sharing in the profits of this recovery .. the mantra of business and the right is STFU and be thankfull you get a pay check at all

Have you heard of the wage-price spiral?