American job openings outnumber the jobless, first time ever recorded

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

liberal=good, conservative=bad, we all get it.

Just remember, There's a special place in Hell, if you don't lie down and take it from Trump.

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Originally Posted by Pete F.

Just remember, There's a special place in Hell, if you don't lie down and take it from Trump.

Just remember, we're seeing "conservatism" at its finest.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Just remember, There's a special place in Hell, if you don't lie down and take it from Trump.

I'm highly critical of his character. But when he enacts great public policy, I give him credit. The economy is roaring, at a time when many economists feel we are past due for a recession.

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I'm highly critical of his character. But when he enacts great public policy, I give him credit. The economy is roaring, at a time when many economists feel we are past due for a recession.

If you were highly critical of his character you'd be razing the forum with hyped up posts like you did with Clinton and Obama.

As for his policy leading to a roaring economy I'm not sure where you gather that from. A key reason the economy is doing as well as it is though is the global economy has been performing very strong and lifting us with it. He inherited the positive unemployment, the tax cuts have given us a short-term jolt that is expected to start fading next year but there's not been much movement on wages as well as savings which is very weak. GDP hasn't come close to Trump predictions and is expected to fall to 2% next year.

Goosing an economy at full employment doesn't make a lot of sense unless it's just political payback. Starting trade wars with our allies where we don't even really have trade deficits doesn't make sense either. Remember all the tough talk on China? Trump tried to be a bully and got bitch slapped. Instead we're going to battle with Canada over cheese, our second biggest trading partner and a country who has stood by our side like a blood brother.

It's embarrassing.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

If you were highly critical of his character you'd be razing the forum with hyped up posts like you did with Clinton and Obama.

As for his policy leading to a roaring economy I'm not sure where you gather that from. A key reason the economy is doing as well as it is though is the global economy has been performing very strong and lifting us with it. He inherited the positive unemployment, the tax cuts have given us a short-term jolt that is expected to start fading next year but there's not been much movement on wages as well as savings which is very weak. GDP hasn't come close to Trump predictions and is expected to fall to 2% next year.

Goosing an economy at full employment doesn't make a lot of sense unless it's just political payback. Starting trade wars with our allies where we don't even really have trade deficits doesn't make sense either. Remember all the tough talk on China? Trump tried to be a bully and got bitch slapped. Instead we're going to battle with Canada over cheese, our second biggest trading partner and a country who has stood by our side like a blood brother.

It's embarrassing.

"If you were highly critical of his character you'd be razing the forum with hyped up posts like you did with Clinton and Obama. "

I have called him a morally bankrupt reptile, and a scumbag, as many times as I criticized Obama. There is no "if".

"As for his policy leading to a roaring economy I'm not sure where you gather that from"

Low unemployment? Record low unemployment for blacks? Stock market soaring? These are the same statistics that got better under Obama, and I never heard you deny that Obama improved the economy.

"there's not been much movement on wages "

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-wag...120000493.html

2.9% year over year? That's more of a raise than I got. Not as good as being in a union for sure, but not bad. You're right, wages need to increase more. If the demand for labor now exceeds the supply for the first time ever recorded ("ever" only being 17 years), why wouldn't that help increase wages? Familiar with supply and demand, and their effect on price?

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by spence

If you were highly critical of his character you'd be razing the forum with hyped up posts like you did with Clinton and Obama.

As for his policy leading to a roaring economy I'm not sure where you gather that from. A key reason the economy is doing as well as it is though is the global economy has been performing very strong and lifting us with it. He inherited the positive unemployment, the tax cuts have given us a short-term jolt that is expected to start fading next year but there's not been much movement on wages as well as savings which is very weak. GDP hasn't come close to Trump predictions and is expected to fall to 2% next year.

Goosing an economy at full employment doesn't make a lot of sense unless it's just political payback. Starting trade wars with our allies where we don't even really have trade deficits doesn't make sense either. Remember all the tough talk on China? Trump tried to be a bully and got bitch slapped. Instead we're going to battle with Canada over cheese, our second biggest trading partner and a country who has stood by our side like a blood brother.

It's embarrassing.

You forgot to mention the federal debt

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by zimmy

You forgot to mention the federal debt

Perfect example of the hypocrisy on both sides.

Obama added more to the debt than anyone before. Conservatives said it was terrible, liberals were not concerned.

Trump is now adding to the debt, and the roles are reversed. Conservatives say it's nothing to worry about, liberals now worry about deficits.

Here's the difference...Trump is putting money in the pockets of huge numbers of Americans. Obama never came close to doing that.

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Obama added more to the debt than anyone before. Conservatives said it was terrible, liberals were not concerned.

Most of that was inherited from Bush and some the result of Obama tax cuts. Obama did a good job of reducing the deficit and as a percentage of debt increase was better than Bush 43 or Reagan.

Here's the difference...Trump is putting money in the pockets of huge numbers of Americans. Obama never came close to doing that.

You keep saying that but is it true? Impact of the tax cuts to average workers is pretty small and has to be offset with increases in household spending from health care, inflation etc...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Most of that was inherited from Bush and some the result of Obama tax cuts. Obama did a good job of reducing the deficit and as a percentage of debt increase was better than Bush 43 or Reagan.


You keep saying that but is it true? Impact of the tax cuts to average workers is pretty small and has to be offset with increases in household spending from health care, inflation etc...

"Most of that was inherited from Bush and the democrat-controlled Congress, which writes the laws and crafts the budgets"

fixed it for you.

"and some the result of Obama tax cuts"

What tax cuts were those? How about Obamacare and the stimulus package?

"Obama did a good job of reducing the deficit and as a percentage of debt increase "

He had the highest deficits ever. He gets credit for the biggest deficits being his earliest years? Is the debt any different if his biggest deficit is in his first year or his last year?

"Impact of the tax cuts to average workers is pretty small"

True, but it's larger than the $0 tax cut we got under Obama.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"You're going to win so much, you're going to get tired of winning. Believe me." -candidate Donald Trump

Originally Posted by zimmy

You forgot to mention the federal debt

Don't worry about the future, we are winning today.
Believe me, I told you so
If you deny it you must be from Fake news, one of those failing news organizations, Not state news, oh i meant Faux, Fox, or the deep state, or secretly a democrat, or short or a lying, cheating adjective repeated endlessly until it is true.
Anyways it's all Obama's fault and you'll have to ask him about that, or maybe George Washington.
REPORTER: Mr. President, David Herszenhorn with Politico Europe. Just to come back to Russia for a second. Something that happened that got them kicked out of the G8 was the invasion and annexation of Crimea. Do you think that Crimea should be recognized as Russian (inaudible)?

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, you know, you have to ask President Obama, because he was the one that let Crimea get away. That was during his administration. And he was the one that let Russia go and spend a lot of money on Crimea, because they’ve spent a lot of money on rebuilding it. I guess they have their submarine port there and such. But Crimea was let go during the Obama administration. And, you know, Obama can say all he wants, but he allowed Russia to take Crimea. I may have had a much different attitude. So you’d really have to ask that question to President Obama — you know, why did he do that; why did he do that. But with that being said, it’s been done a long time.