Birthright citizenship

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Originally Posted by Slipknot

wdmso, I skimmed this thread and you are almost getting me to watch the youtube video if I have time. If you ask my opinion , but you probably don't care, I think Trump is distracting with this birthright subject and yes, probably one lawyer said he could use executive power or whatever. I would rather he concentrate his effort on something else like loopholes in tax laws for millionaires and billionaires rather than birthright loophole. THAT is what is ridiculous

Generally agree but this isn’t a distraction, it’s another log on the anti immigrant fire.

I do wonder, are kids of illegal immigrants born here
being given citizenship even a problem? The anchor baby argument doesn’t even hold water when you look at what it takes under the law.
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[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by spence

Generally agree but this isn’t a distraction, it’s another log on the anti immigrant fire.

I do wonder, are kids of illegal immigrants born here
being given citizenship even a problem? The anchor baby argument doesn’t even hold water when you look at what it takes under the law.
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A problem you ask?
Come on, think about it and use some common sense if you have any. Obviously it’s a problem if even some of them are dependent on government aid at some point in their lives and that money could be used to aid actual citizens and taxpayers born of LEGAL immigrant parents for instance homeless veterans for one, or maybe financial aid for your kids to go to college. But you might prefer footing the bill for illegal immigrants I suppose? That is dividing the country so maybe get your priorities straight

Trump is trying to do his job best he can and better the country.
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Originally Posted by Slipknot

Obviously it’s a problem if even some of them are dependent on government aid at some point in their lives and that money could be used to aid actual citizens and taxpayers born of LEGAL immigrant parents for instance homeless veterans for one, or maybe financial aid for your kids to go to college. But you might prefer footing the bill for illegal immigrants I suppose? That is dividing the country so maybe get your priorities straight

Trump is trying to do his job best he can and better the country.
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How do you know these young citizens aren’t studying hard in school and becoming productive, taxpaying and patriotic adults?

As for dividing the country, Trump is the one fanning the flames of bigotry, lying to the American people about the situation, deporting US service members promised citizenship, permanently stripping families of their children, working to eliminate hard working dreamers and now seeking to delegitimize the Constitution.

And the base loves it all, it’s sickening. Immigration doesn’t have to be an all or nothing proposition. You’re all being played by a white nationalist agenda. This isn’t America.
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Originally Posted by spence

Immigration doesn’t have to be an all or nothing proposition.

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"legal immigration" stupid

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Originally Posted by spence

How do you know these young citizens aren’t studying hard in school and becoming productive, taxpaying and patriotic adults? why are you asking that? Try reading what I wrote, I said "if even some" that does not imply that the young citizens are not working hard to better themselves so take it up with your congressman and get the law changed if you can.

As for dividing the country, Trump is the one fanning the flames of bigotry, lying to the American people about the situation, deporting US service members promised citizenship, permanently stripping families of their children, working to eliminate hard working dreamers and now seeking to delegitimize the Constitution. examples?The dividing started long before Trump and you know it.

And the base loves it all, it’s sickening. what is sickening is the Lefts' base supporting socialism and allowing the Communists to divide us Immigration doesn’t have to be an all or nothing proposition.who said it does? You’re all being played by a white nationalist agenda.in your opinion, I am not being played This isn’t America.
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Last I checked it is America, The United States of America.

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Originally Posted by Slipknot

Try reading what I wrote, I said "if even some" that does not imply that the young citizens are not working hard to better themselves so take it up with your congressman and get the law changed if you can.

I'm not suggesting we need to change any laws. I just don't see how a child born in the US who's a US citizen by law deserves any less of a chance than any other US citizen regardless of the status of their parents.

The dividing started long before Trump and you know it.

There's always been tension on this issue but I don't recall previous administrations in my lifetime taking the hard line anti-immigrant positions this president is implementing. Nothing even comes close.